Sopranos 3/19

[Bekim...]

:yipee

[MiAmore]

yeah great.. cant wait until your " the sopranos sucked" post at 10:01 :chuckle

[just jess]

yeah great.. cant wait until your " the sopranos sucked" post at 10:01 :chuckle


:LOL

-Gspot555

[Mandy Gurl]

:agree :applaud

[Bekim...]

its all about my friend who plays "Jerry Torciano" AKA: "the hairdo"

[OuTRiGHT]

yeah great.. cant wait until your " the sopranos sucked" post at 10:01 :chuckle

yep lol

[Hater]

from what I heard the next couple of episodes are boring...

but me being a big supporter of the show I will be recording it ... and watching it a couple of times through the week until I give my review

[luvmeluvmycat]

A little weak. Glad to see Tony isnt dead though, but that could have been predicted without my crystal ball. AJ sucks, Chris dosent. Love when Carm was telling Tony how hot he used to get her by throwing her over his shoulder :sneaky

[Bekim...]

and dont any of you start with symbolic crap that episode was TERRIBLE..TERRIBLE boring and many pointless dumb scenes.... shows gonna suck without tony because they keep showing FAT vito

[Bekim...]

Timmy tell me that was the worst

[MiAmore]

here we go :rolleyes:

[Bekim...]

here we go :rolleyes:


that was the worst we wait 2 years for a six feet under copy cat... david chase sucks get him out and get scorsese in there

[OuTRiGHT]

WOW u people are seriously out of ur fucking minds, all im gonna say is this show is AMAZING, i thought it was great before but they have just taken it to another level i am blown away

between the power struggle and action thats gonna go on in the family, and the similarities to the Godfather with AJ telling tony he is gonna get junior for this and he will be there for him is almost exactly the same as michael corleones transition from regular guy to gangster in the godfather

and with that i will not even bother reading or responding or trying to make any of u idiots see how great this is , instead i will just anxiously await next week

WOW

[MiAmore]

and dont any of you start with symbolic crap that episode was TERRIBLE..TERRIBLE boring and many pointless dumb scenes.... shows gonna suck without tony because they keep showing FAT vito

yet you continue to watch :applaud

[MiAmore]

WOW u people are seriously out of ur fucking minds, all im gonna say is this show is AMAZING, i thought it was great before but they have just taken it to another level i am blown away

between the power struggle and action thats gonna go on in the family, and the similarities to the Godfather with AJ telling tony he is gonna get junior for this and he will be there for him is almost exactly the same as michael corleones transition from regular guy to gangster in the godfather

and with that i will not even bother reading or responding or trying to make any of u idiots see how great this is , instead i will just anxiously await next week

WOW

:werdsign

[Bekim...]

yet you continue to watch :applaud

of course one of my favorties it just sucks to watch it go downhill the way it has the last 4 seasons...... you think that was a good episode?

[OuTRiGHT]

WOW u people are seriously out of ur fucking minds, all im gonna say is this show is AMAZING, i thought it was great before but they have just taken it to another level i am blown away

between the power struggle and action thats gonna go on in the family, and the similarities to the Godfather with AJ telling tony he is gonna get junior for this and he will be there for him is almost exactly the same as michael corleones transition from regular guy to gangster in the godfather

and with that i will not even bother reading or responding or trying to make any of u idiots see how great this is , instead i will just anxiously await next week

WOW

[RICKY]

Show was terrible, and why do they keep showing that fat prick Vito. I hate him..... :chuckle


It was definately weak but I like where the idea could go and the amount mayhem that will be in the near future.....

[Bekim...]

timmy watch it again tomorrow it will put you to sleep

[MiAmore]

that was the worst we wait 2 years for a six feet under copy cat... david chase sucks get him out and get scorsese in there

i liked it :shrugger

[PhuckU]

Wasnt an exciting episode but I definately thought this week was well directed....Took it to a whole different level IMO. Ima kill that Mummy head :floor

[Bekim...]

diff level? they did a dream show 89702340920932740 times enough already lets see mob shit

[MiAmore]

of course one of my favorties it just sucks to watch it go downhill the way it has the last 4 seasons...... you think that was a good episode?


Yes.. I didnt want it to end.. The show isnt going downhill.. the family is.. it's intense.. I liked it :agree

[Bekim...]

i liked it :shrugger


yea because your a girl

[PhuckU]

diff level? they did a dream show 89702340920932740 times enough already lets see mob shit


No dumbass, I mean a serious side to the show...How people react differently towards losing someone, how it is coped with etc...

[OuTRiGHT]

diff level? they did a dream show 89702340920932740 times enough already lets see mob shit

do u understand how much fucking 'MOB SHIT" is being set up by this??????????? dude come on ur really out of ur mind

[MiAmore]

diff level? they did a dream show 89702340920932740 times enough already lets see mob shit

that is mob shit.. lol

maybe this show would be better for you...

http://www.nightclubcity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103032

[Micha]

diff level? they did a dream show 89702340920932740 times enough already lets see mob shit

i think ur missing the point

[Bekim...]

i think ur missing the point


not at all... I get the point.

[RICKY]

do u understand how much fucking 'MOB SHIT" is being set up by this??????????? dude come on ur really out of ur mind


Or we could be fooled by the coming attractions like the past. Anyways I will be tuned in next week and most likely ready to kick it down.....

[fifi~dee]

I thought it was great.

I was choked up the whole show, and A.J. starting to show signs of craziness ohohohhh :rubhands

[fifi~dee]

I love Carmella more and more and more and after this episode, She is making the show for me right now.

[Bekim...]

timmy they fake you out... if you are a true sopranos fan like i am you would already know that the actual "MOB SHIT" NEVER COMES.......

now with tony dead and chris going to be gona all we're gonna have is phat fucking vito....

[OuTRiGHT]

Hello, Tony Fucking Soprano Is In The Hospital Dying

This Is The Last Season Of The Show They Are Setting Big Big Things Up

What Do U Wanna See At This Point, Paulie Walnuts Slap Somebody Around Because They Owe Him Money?? Lol Been There Done That

[Bekim...]

what happend last season with ny/nj NOTHING NOTHING HAPPEND NO WAR NO MOB SHIT NOTHING TONY BECAME A PUSSY AND KILLED HIS OWN COUSIN NOTHING HAPPEND

[PhuckU]

timmy they fake you out... if you are a true sopranos fan like i am you would already know that the actual "MOB SHIT" NEVER COMES.......

now with tony dead and chris going to be gona all we're gonna have is phat fucking vito....


You dont know your ass from a hole in the fucking ground...Quit making shit up already..lol

[OuTRiGHT]

timmy they fake you out... if you are a true sopranos fan like i am you would already know that the actual "MOB SHIT" NEVER COMES.......

now with tony dead and chris going to be gona all we're gonna have is phat fucking vito....

oh ok then i guess im not a true sopranos fan like u are lol, thanks for letting me in on that

[MiAmore]

beck def just says this shit to get people mad.. he cant be that dumb.. :cookoo

[RICKY]

I love Carmella more and more and more and after this episode, She is making the show for me right now.


She has gotten alot better I will agree, but she is one scary lady without makeup on. I would laso like to add Meadow has become super hot, and I am sure she will be in lots of magazines like fhm ect etc....

[OuTRiGHT]

Hello, Tony Fucking Soprano Is In The Hospital Dying

This Is The Last Season Of The Show They Are Setting Big Big Things Up

What Do U Wanna See At This Point, Paulie Walnuts Slap Somebody Around Because They Owe Him Money?? Lol Been There Done That

yea good point tim i agree

[Bekim...]

You dont know your ass from a hole in the fucking ground...Quit making shit up already..lol


making shit up Im teh one that said tony gets shot in the first episode and chris gets killed in 4

[hightide85]

spare me the lame excuses...that episode was HORRIBLE. It can setup some cool things but who cares they still wasted an episode. They did the same thing with Deadwood...took out the man who made the show for 4 episodes...the season was HORRIBLE.

[Bekim...]

beck def just says this shit to get people mad.. he cant be that dumb.. :cookoo


madonna is going to be on in 3 weeks she plays a cunt

[OuTRiGHT]

ah like i said let me just get off this board and stop reading because stupidity really aggrivates me and i shouldnt do this to myself lol

[Bekim...]

wasted episode thats all that was..... "sporanos filler"

[PhuckU]

making shit up Im teh one that said tony gets shot in the first episode and chris gets killed in 4


Chris getting killed in 4..lol Your funny sometimes.

[Mandy Gurl]

i thought it was sad :(

but i dont think he is gunna die like this....was there previews for next week? I missed the last 5mins :hmmm

[MiAmore]

beck go rent goodfellas.. this show is too deep for you :console

[PhuckU]

You do realize they are in negotiations for a 7th season, right?

[fifi~dee]

I'm convinced Adriana is still alive.

[OuTRiGHT]

all i know is for the last few years after the majority of every episode i was sitting there like "wtf was that, are u kidding me, thats it?" and after this one i was pumped up and cant wait for next week, thats the bottom line

[PhuckU]

I'm convinced Adriana is still alive.


Shes not, shes still a small part in the cast because they are going to use her a few more times this year in like dreams and stuff

[Bekim...]

beck go rent goodfellas.. this show is too deep for you :console


its really not to deep for me Im really into film.... its you wanna be artsy kids that "THINK" its too deep when its really not

[Bekim...]

You do realize they are in negotiations for a 7th season, right?


8 episodes in january and thats it

[Bekim...]

Chris getting killed in 4..lol Your funny sometimes.


ok manny

[PhuckU]

8 episodes in january and thats it


No sir...originally they were supposed to split this season in half and release the second half next year, but if the money is right, they're staying

[Lance Burkhart]

show was amazing. the intellectually weak might not think so because they just dont get it and cant appreciate the brilliance,.

[MiAmore]

its really not to deep for me Im really into film.... its you wanna be artsy kids that "THINK" its too deep when its really not

i know you are.. which is why i dont get how you can say these episodes are horrible.. :wallbang

[Bekim...]

show was amazing. the intellectually weak might not think so because they just dont get it and cant appreciate the brilliance,.

you're gassed

[PhuckU]

show was amazing. the intellectually weak might not think so because they just dont get it and cant appreciate the brilliance,.


I wouldnt call it intellectually weak. It's the Sopranos, people want to see fuckers getting capped. Its an expectation level that isn't being met in their eyes.

[Bekim...]

i know you are.. which is why i dont get how you can say these episodes are horrible.. :wallbang

phab baby love in writing and direction yes they are VERY well done. but phab this show is supposed to be exciting and dramatic... please watch the first 2 seasons when they had REAL gangsters on as advisors and you'll see the difference

[OuTRiGHT]

its funny when u think about it, one week ago i was sitting in this room at this computer on this board talking about the exact same thing im talking about now to the minute lol

[Lance Burkhart]

I wouldnt call it intellectually weak. It's the Sopranos, people want to see fuckers getting capped. Its an expectation level that isn't being met in their eyes.


what i mean by "intellectually weak" is that people are unable to see the relevance of what is going on and how much this episode has set the stage. anyone who thinks this episode sucks is UNABLE to see the big picture and the direction the story is heading....which to me is intellectually weak because they dont appreciate how this is being done.

[Bekim...]

what i mean by "intellectually weak" is that people are unable to see the relevance of what is going on and how much this episode has set the stage. anyone who thinks this episode sucks is UNABLE to see the big picture and the direction the story is heading....which to me is intellectually weak because they dont appreciate how this is being done.


STORY NEVER "HEADS" ANYWHERE THATS THE POINT!
HAVE YOU SEEN THE LAST 4 SEASONS?????
DAVID CHASE STARTS SOMETHING AND NEVER TIES UP THE ENDS
YES IF IT DID ACTUALLY GO SOMEWHERE IT MAYBE WOULD BE BRILLIANT BUT I BET YOU THE RANCH IT WONT ALL YOU'LL SEE IS MORE FAT VITO ONE LINERS

[chromeheart]

sucked i will never watch again... its a mob show not a pbs special save the artsy shit for the bravo channel

[Lance Burkhart]

STORY NEVER "HEADS" ANYWHERE THATS THE POINT!
HAVE YOU SEEN THE LAST 4 SEASONS?????
DAVID CHASE STARTS SOMETHING AND NEVER TIES UP THE ENDS
YES IF IT DID ACTUALLY GO SOMEWHERE IT MAYBE WOULD BE BRILLIANT BUT I BET YOU THE RANCH IT WONT ALL YOU'LL SEE IS MORE FAT VITO ONE LINERS


yes ive watched every episode multiple times. my question to you is why do you still watch it if basically the only good season (according to you) was the first 1, and the next 4 sucked? why continue watching? why be loyal to something you only have complaints about? the writers must be doing something right because despite sucking for years, you're tuning in every time and posting your "review" a minute after its done

[PhuckU]

what i mean by "intellectually weak" is that people are unable to see the relevance of what is going on and how much this episode has set the stage. anyone who thinks this episode sucks is UNABLE to see the big picture and the direction the story is heading....which to me is intellectually weak because they dont appreciate how this is being done.


I agree with you for the most part, after waiting almost 2 years, people want to see action, if the series was like this every episode, do you think it would have as many fans as it does? I wouldnt say this episode sucks, but I certainly wouldnt say it was great. I personally liked the episode because I could relate to that situation to a certain extent , However, just because there are puns thrown everywhere and they are setting the stage, doesnt mean it was good.

[John Kennedy]

Show was excellent.. that mob shit is too predictable.. its big letting the thought of no tony soprano into peoples heads.. the possibility of no tony soprano.. its big having tony see his possibilities in his dreams and him kind of enjoying not being tony soprano.. about to make the call but not making it.. all working the emotional ties weve all made to him. these are the kind of things you do at the end of an era.. mind fucks, what it wouldve been like if it all didnt happen.. what it could be like if we all change our perspective of the show.......... and then u go and make 5 soprano spinoffs next year lol

and the best part of this thread has to be outright agreeing with himself lol

[MiAmore]

phab baby love in writing and direction yes they are VERY well done. but phab this show is supposed to be exciting and dramatic... please watch the first 2 seasons when they had REAL gangsters on as advisors and you'll see the difference


beck dear.. i have watched them all.. they were good then.. they are good now.. maybe i enjoy watching the family fall apart like this.. who knows.. i still think it is exciting and dramatic..

if you want a show about real mob shit this is it..

i think you just want a show about gansters shooting each other in the head every 5 seconds.. :guns

[drumaboy]

it's the little things that keep me watching ......"van helsing" lololol

[fifi~dee]

what i mean by "intellectually weak" is that people are unable to see the relevance of what is going on and how much this episode has set the stage. anyone who thinks this episode sucks is UNABLE to see the big picture and the direction the story is heading....which to me is intellectually weak because they dont appreciate how this is being done.

i dunno..
but i think the whole 'point' of this episode was setting up that AJ is gonna cap Jun in the head

[Bekim...]

you want deep and symbolic go rent a david lynch movie..mullholland drive or blue velvet... thats deep and symbolic

[Bekim...]

it's the little things that keep me watching ......"van helsing" lololol


best part.

[Lance Burkhart]

I agree with you for the most part, after waiting almost 2 years, people want to see action, if the series was like this every episode, do you think it would have as many fans as it does? I wouldnt say this episode sucks, but I certainly wouldnt say it was great. I personally liked the episode because I could relate to that situation to a certain extent , However, just because there are puns thrown everywhere and they are setting the stage, doesnt mean it was good.


standing alone, i wouldnt say this episode was great, but as part of an eventual whole, i think it was brilliant.

[Bekim...]

sucked i will never watch again... its a mob show not a pbs special save the artsy shit for the bravo channel


people want this to be a david lynch rip off.... go watch twin peaks or lost highway

[PhuckU]

Show was excellent.. that mob shit is too predictable.. its big letting the thought of no tony soprano into peoples heads.. the possibility of no tony soprano.. its big having tony see his possibilities in his dreams and him kind of enjoying not being tony soprano.. about to make the call but not making it.. all working the emotional ties weve all made to him. these are the kind of things you do at the end of an era.. mind fucks, what it wouldve been like if it all didnt happen.. what it could be like if we all change our perspective of the show.......... and then u go and make 5 soprano spinoffs next year lol

and the best part of this thread has to be outright agreeing with himself lol


So let me ask you this, who do you think he was gonna call?

[Bekim...]

So let me ask you this, who do you think he was gonna call?


ghostbusters

[John Kennedy]

STORY NEVER "HEADS" ANYWHERE THATS THE POINT!
HAVE YOU SEEN THE LAST 4 SEASONS?????
DAVID CHASE STARTS SOMETHING AND NEVER TIES UP THE ENDS
YES IF IT DID ACTUALLY GO SOMEWHERE IT MAYBE WOULD BE BRILLIANT BUT I BET YOU THE RANCH IT WONT ALL YOU'LL SEE IS MORE FAT VITO ONE LINERS

its fine like that... if they spelled it all out to u u wouldnt be addicted to the damn show.. ur going to watch it next week and until the end and ur going to buy it on dvd

[Lance Burkhart]

i dunno..
but i think the whole 'point' of this episode was setting up that AJ is gonna cap Jun in the head

print out this post, put it on your cat and take a picture...

[PhuckU]

ghostbusters


LMAO

[Bekim...]

its fine like that... if they spelled it all out to u u wouldnt be addicted to the damn show.. ur going to watch it next week and until the end and ur going to buy it on dvd


nope only own season 1 and 2 when it was about goumbas
I dont need to watch david chase try and be a wanna be david lynch over again

[fifi~dee]

print out this post, put it on your cat and take a picture...

which cat?
I have 3 and I don't want to be unfair

[Mr.Boogie]

I have a strange feeling the whole season is gonna be Tony in a Coma and a power struggle going down within the family for power

[Bekim...]

I have a strange feeling the whole season is gonna be Tony in a Coma and a power struggle going down within the family for power


Tony dies my cousin

[PhuckU]

I have a strange feeling the whole season is gonna be Tony in a Coma and a power struggle going down within the family for power


Naaa, he gets paid way too much to not kill people..lol

[John Kennedy]

So let me ask you this, who do you think he was gonna call?

i think his wife but he didnt want to.. he kind of likes having no ties.. he wants to be someone else and stay somewhere else

[luvmeluvmycat]

I start good threads.

[Lance Burkhart]

which cat?
I have 3 and I don't want to be unfair

put all 3 in a blender and pour them onto the paper. haha jk

pick the darkest

[John Kennedy]

nope only own season 1 and 2 when it was about goumbas
I dont need to watch david chase try and be a wanna be david lynch over again

the show cant do that straight year after year over and over again and leave a mark with people

[PhuckU]

i think his wife but he didnt want to.. he kind of likes having no ties.. he wants to be someone else and stay somewhere else

O so you dont know..lol

How can you say it was great if your really dont know what it meant?

He already was someone else, just with the same name..

[John Kennedy]

I start good threads.

you could have just titled it sopranos and left it blank and it would head to 15 pages

[PhuckU]

I start good threads.


Its a copycat thread....Take it easy killa..lol

[ShaE]

what happend last season with ny/nj NOTHING NOTHING HAPPEND NO WAR NO MOB SHIT NOTHING TONY BECAME A PUSSY AND KILLED HIS OWN COUSIN NOTHING HAPPEND
As far as storyline quality...you give me a choice between a stupid, bloody mob war where insignificant ppl get knocked off here n there, and tony being forced to shoot his own cousin, I'll pick the latter.

Tony was a pussy and killed tony b? If you think that's being a pussy, no wonder why you're bored with all this shit.

[fifi~dee]

put all 3 in a blender and pour them onto the paper. haha jk

pick the darkest


i have a medium orange one.. but another with dark grey and orange so I guess i'll go wtih her? :hmmm

but she is getting shaved in 2 days.. so then she'll be light

[John Kennedy]

O so you dont know..lol

How can you say it was great if your really dont know what it meant?

He already was someone else, just with the same name..

huh?

I know he was someone else in the dream, but he didn't realize it himself.. it was sinking in, and he was liking it

[PhuckU]

As far as storyline quality...you give me a choice between a stupid, bloody mob war where insignificant ppl get knocked off here n there, and tony being forced to shoot his own cousin, I'll pick the latter.

Tony was a pussy and killed tony b? If you think that's being a pussy, no wonder why you're bored with all this shit.


That was huge..Da fuck is Beck talking about.

[Lance Burkhart]

i have a medium orange one.. but another with dark grey and orange so I guess i'll go wtih her? :hmmm

but she is getting shaved in 2 days.. so then she'll be light


i thought u said u have 3, whats the other one?

[Lance Burkhart]

This Show Was So Symbolic And Deep, I Could Go On And On!!! Amazing!!!!!!

[fifi~dee]

i thought u said u have 3, whats the other one?

White with Grey Siamese markings so She is DEFINATELY out

[Lance Burkhart]

White with Grey Siamese markings so She is DEFINATELY out


DAMN, okay well just go with the grey and orange one. im sure the shaving will be kinda traumatic so might as well give it a little thrill to balance things out.

[ShaE]

That was huge..Da fuck is Beck talking about.
Seriously, it was fucking huge for Tony to do that. Nevermind the obvious fact he killed family, it was someone he already felt guilty towards for him spending YEARS in prison, losing his family, etc. So on top of all that bullshit now he's gotta kill the guy?? over some stupid hit tony b did?

The predictable thing would've been for a war to go down...the unpredictable would've been tony on the porch w/ a shotgun givin it to tony b himself- I love this show :rubhands

[fifi~dee]

DAMN, okay well just go with the grey and orange one. im sure the shaving will be kinda traumatic so might as well give it a little thrill to balance things out.


I'll just get her loaded on Nip after I bring her home all bare... she'll be fine.:agree

[Bekim...]

eh tony killed his cousin cause NJ sucks and NY is the best

[Lance Burkhart]

eh tony killed his cousin cause NJ sucks and NY is the best


haha, amen!

[Mr.Boogie]

Tony dies my cousin


i highly doubt that.....


He will be back by episode 6

[Bekim...]

shegociva I never read any of your posts because that purple crayon and babbaling drive me insane

[RICKY]

shegociva I never read any of your posts because that purple crayon and babbaling drive me insane


lololol

[fifi~dee]

shegociva I never read any of your posts because that purple crayon and babbaling drive me insane


wow you're so racist..

all font should be looked at equally

[Lance Burkhart]

uncle junior is a mummy!

[Bekim...]

wow you're so racist..

all font should be looked at equally


I dont like the way ******s smell either

[fifi~dee]

I dont like the way ******s smell either

Especially on a hot August dasy :disappoin

[Bekim...]

Especially on a hot August dasy :disappoin
like warm cocoa butter and beef patties

[fifi~dee]

like warm cocoa butter and beef patties


when I was younger some girl at school told me to put CoCoa butter in my hair to condition it... she meant some type of OIL not butter.

my dumb ass went and bought a TUB of cocoa butter and put it in my hair, not once, twice but for about 5 months.

:yourcrazy

[ShaE]

shegociva I never read any of your posts because that purple crayon and babbaling drive me insane


You never read them, yet you complain BLA BLA BLA...I'm soundin like a broken record tellin you to PLEASE ignore or STFU already :booted

Must you bitch about everything ?? You really do complain an awful lot about shit while continuing to watch..and or read it lol

[ShaE]

Naaa, he gets paid way too much to not kill people..lol

Yeah, for once I agree lol

[OuTRiGHT]

WOW u people are seriously out of ur fucking minds, all im gonna say is this show is AMAZING, i thought it was great before but they have just taken it to another level i am blown away

between the power struggle and action thats gonna go on in the family, and the similarities to the Godfather with AJ telling tony he is gonna get junior for this and he will be there for him is almost exactly the same as michael corleones transition from regular guy to gangster in the godfather

and with that i will not even bother reading or responding or trying to make any of u idiots see how great this is , instead i will just anxiously await next week

WOW

ur a fucking genius the way u put things together, people love u

[Bekim...]

ur a fucking genius the way u put things together, people love u


shame on you to compare this crap to the Godfather

[just jess]

cant wait to see the family go to shit...

good times.

[OuTRiGHT]

shame on you to compare this crap to the Godfather

if u recall the scene with the Don lying in the hospital bed and michael at his side saying im here for u now pop, im with u, it is very similar

before that point michael corleone had no type of crime experience whatsoever and motivated to protect his father he turned into a ruthless cunning superb mob boss

now im certainly not saying that fucking moron AJ is gonna be anywhere close to what michael was lol but it was a similar situation

[Benny B]

i personally think that was carmelas best acting since the show began... she played that role amazingly.

[OuTRiGHT]

i personally think that was carmelas best acting since the show began... she played that role amazingly.

yea she did a great job, very genuine

[Eleni]

i personally think that was carmelas best acting since the show began... she played that role amazingly.


I agree 100%...she never had to stir up such emotion. He really should have pushed some of them to do more, some of them are incredibly talented.

Didn't Tony once tell Dr. Malfi that if he was ever losing his mind like his Uncle Junior he'd want his family to euthanize him?

Chase has always forced the audience to keep Tony's mortality on our minds, keeping it a constant question on Tony's mind each season...now that comes to fruition, you are all wondering if Tony will die because really, it wouldnt be THAT shocking for him to kill him off the show...would it? Ambitious...

didnt the Fed agent say "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." ...I think that correlates directly to how this family is going to act come the next few episodes...people were already wondering what would happen if Tony died before Junior even shot him, now that is coming to fruition as well...and everyone will get to see the greed and evil that lies deep within MANY MANY people...who will do what? everyone's wondering and left hanging

oh well, maybe I am overthinking it, but I think I UNDERthink the Sopranos, so I'll keep watching until I figure that out! lol

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

not gonna read thru the thread but i thought this episode was great. shows how tony was dreaming that he could have had a different life with a loving family. very good episode.

Is the hotel purgatory? Who is Kevin Finnerty? What about the monks???

[J. Martin]

I know last night was a prelude of more exciting things to come, but I was almost put to sleep by 9:30. Boring. Next week looks exciting, though

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

and lets not forget the

It's William S. Burroughs reading his hallucinatory and haunting "Seven Souls." An excerpt:

"The ancient Egyptians postulated seven souls. Top soul, and the first to leave at the moment of death, is Ren, the Secret Name. . . . Second soul, and second one off the sinking ship, is Sekem: Energy, Power, Light. . . .

"Number three is Khu, the Guardian Angel. . . .

"Number four is Ba, the Heart, often treacherous. . . . Number Five is Ka, the Double. . . . Number Six is Khaibit, the Shadow, memory, your whole past conditioning from this and other lives.

"Number seven is Sekhu, the Remains."

[CraftyVet16]

WOW u people are seriously out of ur fucking minds, all im gonna say is this show is AMAZING, i thought it was great before but they have just taken it to another level i am blown away

between the power struggle and action thats gonna go on in the family, and the similarities to the Godfather with AJ telling tony he is gonna get junior for this and he will be there for him is almost exactly the same as michael corleones transition from regular guy to gangster in the godfather

and with that i will not even bother reading or responding or trying to make any of u idiots see how great this is , instead i will just anxiously await next week

WOW

if what u are saying is AJ is going to take over or have anything to do with the mob, they would have turned this show into a complete and utter joke, that kid is a loser and will always be a loser and thats becuase thats how the writers wanted him to be... i have a feeling tony will be in a coma for a long time

[PhuckU]

eh tony killed his cousin cause NJ sucks and NY is the best


If that was the case, the Show would be taken place in NYC and you would still be leaving there...To tell you the truth, NJ would be ALOT better of a place with one less Albanian running ramped through the streets of Weehawken..lol

[Eleni]

I also thought AJ's revenge attitude was GREAT...didn't see that one coming...I dont think ANYone did because the entire episode he was just burying all his emotions and acting lethargic about the whole thing, even referred to his father as "Anthony Soprano" and not dad. That moment of hate and that promise could be HUGE...and he will keep it stifled from everyone else I think, wow!

I thought for a sec Tony was going to wake up and slap Janice btw :floor
I know I sure wanted to...stupid annoying bitch :booted

[Eleni]

if what u are saying is AJ is going to take over or have anything to do with the mob, they would have turned this show into a complete and utter joke, that kid is a loser and will always be a loser and thats becuase thats how the writers wanted him to be... i have a feeling tony will be in a coma for a long time


That is precisely their point...this might be what turns him around from being a spoiled brat, he still has time to change lol, he is in college for teh love of god he isnt 65. The point is that it is very well possible (and this is definitely TRUE) that the son of a wealthy gangster family, who has everything handed to him on a silver platter all his life, grew up in a mini-mansion and never worked a day in his life thus far, might just end up lazy and ambivalent about everything especially hard work. That makes perfect sense to me...and seems more plausible than the son being some brainiac that shovels snow for everyone in his neighborhood every winter :shrugger

[Lance Burkhart]

he flunked out of school, he is gonna take it to the streets. he'll spike the hair like the gotti kids and start dominating the nyc club scene and then transition into the mob. it's gonna be sick!

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

Tony is in Purgatory...

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/sepinwall/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1142836402123280.xml&coll=1&thispage=1

[joeydollaz]

WOW u people are seriously out of ur fucking minds, all im gonna say is this show is AMAZING, i thought it was great before but they have just taken it to another level i am blown away

between the power struggle and action thats gonna go on in the family, and the similarities to the Godfather with AJ telling tony he is gonna get junior for this and he will be there for him is almost exactly the same as michael corleones transition from regular guy to gangster in the godfather

and with that i will not even bother reading or responding or trying to make any of u idiots see how great this is , instead i will just anxiously await next week

WOW

as long as you dont watch it again today and change your mind and tell us how it actually was boring LOL

i thought last night was awesome. it was like fuckin emotional!!

at first when they were showing him as the salesman i was like wtf is going on :hmmm

aj is gonna get gangster and waste uncle joon, he's going to put a bullet in his fuckin mummy head ! bur whats the environment BS ? he should bea fuck up not some greenpeacer. wtf.

vito is annoying. cool to see sil take control. i love how paulie is liek i'm going to send tony a nice mini stereo for the room, christophere tahts not neccassary, then he sends one. lol.

i dont know what i dislike more, tony in a coma or him being a pussy, a fucking harikrisna slapped him ! the fuck ??

[OuTRiGHT]

I know last night was a prelude of more exciting things to come, but I was almost put to sleep by 9:30. Boring. Next week looks exciting, though

if u didnt appreciate that episode last night u shouldnt be watching the show

[lollie60]

I have a strange feeling the whole season is gonna be Tony in a Coma and a power struggle going down within the family for power

:agree and he will pop out the last minute

I can see AJ getting into some serious trouble

[J. Martin]

if u didnt appreciate that episode last night u shouldnt be watching the show


I said I could appreciate the purpose of last night's episode, I just found it boring :shrugger

[Jame$ Money]

I cant hate on people disliking last night's episode or whatever, your entitled to your own opinion but to me that was one of the most gut-wrenching, riveting and amazing episodes ive ever seen. Pretty much every tv show thats ever come along has changed over time, nothing ever really stays the same and in order to keep the show fresh i agree with the direction its taking.

As for the content of the episode, i thought it was as good as it gets. Tony's dreams were everything u would expect from the Sopranos writing team : confusing, symbolic and detailed all at the same time. The helicopter light/Dr's light was a great example of him being in his "dream purgatory" and at the same time still holding a connection to the real world. The closing scene where he dialed two numbers and then hung up the phone seemed to incinuate that he desires to come home back to his family (aka the real world) but its not time for that.

This review comes from someone who really watches this show for Tony and Christopher who are in my opinion the most interesting and compelling characters on this show, so watching the real possibility of Tony no longer being on this show was a hard thought to digest. If u didnt like the story u have to give the actors theyre respect; all around the whole cast was just amazing. Carmella's emotions and interactions with Tony in this episode alone will garner her awards considerations when the time comes. Meadow reading poetry to her father, Janice's breakdown when seeing her brother cause while theyre relationship was always strained on one level or another, theyre siblings and thats a line that always holds.

I think AJ's dialogue with his father was the most interesting and captivating of them all. He's barely in college and faced with the prospect of losing his father well before he ever expected to and he's crossing the emotions of anger and confusion at the same time ... im most interested to see what direction his character takes especially after angrily telling his father he was gonna take out his revenge on Junior for what he did to his father.

I also wanna reiterate how impressed i was with Tony's family-wide reaction to him getting shot it was as realistic as i could have expected. Anyone who's ever had a parent in a serious condition in a hospital bed will tell u how real it was. Family members will be sad, reflective, angry, etc. all rolled up together. Not to mention only in an episode like this do they still find a way to get a few laughs out of you between Vito's antics and Tony's crew.

Like Tim said im also anxiously looking forward to next week's episode. I hope somehow Tony survives this and rejoins the show cause even though ill never stop watching its basically impossible to imagine watching show w/out Tony Soprano on it.

One last thing ... Junior is def. now one of the most evil characters in recent television history. :disgusted

[Bekim...]

exactly it was boring and anyone else saying anything else is lying to themselves...

[Bekim...]

gut wrenching and riveting??? I love you james but c'monnn buddy
AJ saying 'oh im gunna put a bullet in his head and then talked about 400hp car"?? that was great dialouge??? oh man

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

As for the content of the episode, i thought it was as good as it gets. Tony's dreams were everything u would expect from the Sopranos writing team : confusing, symbolic and detailed all at the same time. The helicopter light/Dr's light was a great example of him being in his "dream purgatory" and at the same time still holding a connection to the real world. The closing scene where he dialed two numbers and then hung up the phone seemed to incinuate that he desires to come home back to his family (aka the real world) but its not time for that.


i agree 100%

[DARKBEATS]

i heard 8 more shows in january and a movie to finish it up

[Bekim...]

yes 12 now and then 8 in january

[Penelicious]

WOW u people are seriously out of ur fucking minds, all im gonna say is this show is AMAZING, i thought it was great before but they have just taken it to another level i am blown away

between the power struggle and action thats gonna go on in the family, and the similarities to the Godfather with AJ telling tony he is gonna get junior for this and he will be there for him is almost exactly the same as michael corleones transition from regular guy to gangster in the godfather

and with that i will not even bother reading or responding or trying to make any of u idiots see how great this is , instead i will just anxiously await next week

WOW


I'm with you on this.

[Jame$ Money]

gut wrenching and riveting??? I love you james but c'monnn buddy
AJ saying 'oh im gunna put a bullet in his head and then talked about 400hp car"?? that was great dialouge??? oh man

I stand by what i say and u got it in reverse about when AJ was talking about the cars and then what he said about killing Junior ... the car came first because AJ was trying to avoid facing the truth of his father's conditionand more or less avoiding it. When he got up on his feet and was really just looking his father in the face u could see the emotions hit him like a truck.

I found this episode like i said to be gut wrenching and riveting just cause i really watch the show for Tony and Christopher and as a viewer who's watched all the seasons ive grown attached to those two guys especially and seeing a parent in the hospital thru Meadow and AJ's eyes reminded me of a situation i was once in and hit home ... i was extremely impressed with the realism of it cause thats what happens in a scenario like that; u laugh a little, u cry a little, u get angry and it all seems to happen within minutes of eachother.

I still think this show is far and wide the best thing on tv and when it finally comes to a close its gonna leave a hole in tv for drama that cant be filled similar to how a comedy has never truly been able to fill "Seinfeld's" shoes.

I mean u got Mike and the Mad Dog spending 20 minutes on theyre sports radio show talking about last night's episode today ... that tells u by itself how far this show's hand reaches.

[robby cano]

weak episode

aj is the worst character ever created on this show

[Bekim...]

yea but james its not days of our lives its the sopranos

[Benny B]

yea but james its not days of our lives its the sopranos
beck.. they are showing all points and views of a family. yes the first two seasons were great... im not gonna dispute that. but they are going in alot more depth of being in the mafia. showing they are people just like me and you. they have dealings just the same as me n you.. and to me they are doing a wonderful job showing that it isnt just all the money and glory but its life.. and with life comes death happiness money poverty.. and they are showing it all...if you look at the show.. its just like days of our lives.. its the same concept.. because look we are all sitting here wondering wtf is gonna happen with tony.. we wanna know if tony dies.. whos gonna take over the family.. so it most def resembles days of our lives...to me the last episode was absolutely amazing.. no action but the story line behind it all was spectacular.

[Eleni]

the opposing views in this post are so DEEP :bored

one sentence doesnt make you RIGHT nor does it define you as too cool for school
explain your thought process if you want to be taken seriously children :booted

[Bekim...]

the opposing views in this post are so DEEP :bored

one sentence doesnt make you RIGHT nor does it define you as too cool for school
explain your thought process if you want to be taken seriously children :booted

to each his own I thought the show was boring ..hopefully next week it gets juicy

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

Okay, just watched the episode again on On Demand. Few new things I came up with. First off, the whole issue with the elevator being blocked. I dont know what the bear represents, if anything, but the elevator could represent the quick, easy way of getting somewhere. Whether it be down (Hell) or just somewhere (out of the place). Either way, the easy way is blocked. Tony is going to have to work at getting out of this place. On his way down the stairs, and when he is nearly half way to the ground floor he stumbles and falls. There are road blocks confronting him. He has not yet figured out exactly what it is meant for him here. He is taken to the hospital where the doctor informs him of the alzheimers.. Now what is important about this scene is that doctor tells him to "check with your doctors back home. Rest up here for a while". This would imply that in this 'other world' Tony is controlled by doctors, much like what is going on in real life. If this doctor told him to 'rest up here for a while' and to 'check with his doctors back home', he is implying that Tony will not have to stay there permanently. He will in fact be able to get home, but he needs to stay here for a while.

Also, the Bhuddists- They say they have been trying to reach him for months. Now, this could be all the attempts at brining religion to Tony (through Carm and the priest- cant remember his name off hand). Sending two Catholic priests to him would be too obvious, so they instead send Bhuddist monks, who refer to their monastery-- a religious 'community' common to Catholicism as well.

As for my previous comparison between AJ and Tony -- hair and smoking-- doesnt it seem odd that both complain of having upset stomachs? Tony cant eat his sandwich ordered at the bar, AJ got food poisoning? Also, in the way he responds to Meadow with the plate of food scene, AJ appears to be becoming as 'paranoid' or 'self-conscious' as Tony seems to be.


Also, all of the people in the people Tony confronts either make mention that where he is 'supposed to go' is booked or that he is only staying for a short while. The girl at the conference cant let him in even though Tony says "but Im on the list"-- possibly refering to his belief he is supposed to die. The hotel clerk says the place is booked with the conventions. Tony says "I was staying here last night as a guest".. Which is exactly what he is- a guest. hes not supposed to stay in this place for very long. The other hotel clerk says he has the single room for one night. Again, making reference to a short period of time. All in all, the people Tony comes up against remind him hes not supposed to stay here for long. This can be taken two ways-- hes not supposed to die, just to think over what hes been missing in life/supposed to change/be doing in life. Or that he is supposed to stay long enough to realize what is more important to him- his powerful side, backed by the mafia, or his family- which leaves him as powerless, 'like everyone else'.

[Benny B]

:heythere hiii eleni!!!
the opposing views in this post are so DEEP :bored

one sentence doesnt make you RIGHT nor does it define you as too cool for school
explain your thought process if you want to be taken seriously children :booted

[MiAmore]

carmella saying how hot she was getting made me physically ill :barfy

[Bekim...]

carmella saying how hot she was getting made me physically ill :barfy

did you get that job near me?

[MiAmore]

did you get that job near me?


i took a different job.. that one was taking too long to make a decision..

[Bekim...]

i took a different job.. that one was taking too long to make a decision..


nice

[drumaboy]

not sure if someone mentioned this before, but.....i like how in his dream sequence, he speaks without the obv accent, if you saw him on Inside the Actor's studio, the way he normally speaks is the way his 'kevin finnerty' talks as well

[Bekim...]

not sure if someone mentioned this before, but.....i like how in his dream sequence, he speaks without the obv accent, if you saw him on Inside the Actor's studio, the way he normally speaks is the way his 'kevin finnerty' talks as well


yeap not like a mook

[drumaboy]

yeap not like a mook

it is funny hearing him speak without the mookness

[Bekim...]

it is funny hearing him speak without the mookness


yea it is

[OuTRiGHT]

I cant hate on people disliking last night's episode or whatever, your entitled to your own opinion but to me that was one of the most gut-wrenching, riveting and amazing episodes ive ever seen. Pretty much every tv show thats ever come along has changed over time, nothing ever really stays the same and in order to keep the show fresh i agree with the direction its taking.

As for the content of the episode, i thought it was as good as it gets. Tony's dreams were everything u would expect from the Sopranos writing team : confusing, symbolic and detailed all at the same time. The helicopter light/Dr's light was a great example of him being in his "dream purgatory" and at the same time still holding a connection to the real world. The closing scene where he dialed two numbers and then hung up the phone seemed to incinuate that he desires to come home back to his family (aka the real world) but its not time for that.

This review comes from someone who really watches this show for Tony and Christopher who are in my opinion the most interesting and compelling characters on this show, so watching the real possibility of Tony no longer being on this show was a hard thought to digest. If u didnt like the story u have to give the actors theyre respect; all around the whole cast was just amazing. Carmella's emotions and interactions with Tony in this episode alone will garner her awards considerations when the time comes. Meadow reading poetry to her father, Janice's breakdown when seeing her brother cause while theyre relationship was always strained on one level or another, theyre siblings and thats a line that always holds.

I think AJ's dialogue with his father was the most interesting and captivating of them all. He's barely in college and faced with the prospect of losing his father well before he ever expected to and he's crossing the emotions of anger and confusion at the same time ... im most interested to see what direction his character takes especially after angrily telling his father he was gonna take out his revenge on Junior for what he did to his father.

I also wanna reiterate how impressed i was with Tony's family-wide reaction to him getting shot it was as realistic as i could have expected. Anyone who's ever had a parent in a serious condition in a hospital bed will tell u how real it was. Family members will be sad, reflective, angry, etc. all rolled up together. Not to mention only in an episode like this do they still find a way to get a few laughs out of you between Vito's antics and Tony's crew.

Like Tim said im also anxiously looking forward to next week's episode. I hope somehow Tony survives this and rejoins the show cause even though ill never stop watching its basically impossible to imagine watching show w/out Tony Soprano on it.

One last thing ... Junior is def. now one of the most evil characters in recent television history. :disgusted

James bro how great is this ??

Nice review man, seeing this show from the beginning and now coming to this point and seeing them in this situation and how they react and the earth shattering effect its gonna have on everything is gonna be amazing

I'm fascinated to see what happens with AJ, i agree i thought that dialogue with tony was the best part of the show

Don't bother trying to explain urself to people who JUST DONT GET IT its a complete waste of time and aggrevation, just be happy that you get it and u have the pleasure and honor of watching this masterpiece

till next week my friend...

[Hater]

Let me start off by saying I thought it was a solid episode and I have to say Eddie Falco acting is incredible she gave a great performance one of her best right up there with the episode where she threw Tony out for good and all his stuff in the driveway ...She is a awesome actress mad props to her. David Chase is the man nuff said...I hate when people expect the shoot em up bang bang style where somebody has to get whacked every god dam single episode come on people smarten up...what he did yesterday was incredible...He is giving other charatchers on the show time to shine but it will always come back to Tony...

Yea it was boring for parts of the show but that is Chase putting his spin on things..and I cant take Anthony serious with that hair cut and when he said he will put a bullet in Juniors head...and when Paulie called him Van Helsing I almost pissed my pants:LOL :LOL

There will be a power struggle within the family and what Chase is getting at is this life all comes to a end...Either in Jail/death ..

[OuTRiGHT]

ur simple minded ERRRR I WANNA SEE BEATING UHHH I WANNA SEE MOB SHIT UHHH SHOOT SOMEBODY attitude is BORING .........LOL

[Hater]

I posted this in another thread...


Let me start off by saying I thought it was a solid episode and I have to say Eddie Falco acting is incredible she gave a great performance one of her best right up there with the episode where she threw Tony out for good and all his stuff in the driveway ...She is a awesome actress mad props to her. David Chase is the man nuff said...I hate when people expect the shoot em up bang bang style where somebody has to get whacked every god dam single episode come on people smarten up...what he did yesterday was incredible...He is giving other charatchers on the show time to shine but it will always come back to Tony...

Yea it was boring for parts of the show but that is Chase putting his spin on things..and I cant take Anthony serious with that hair cut and when he said he will put a bullet in Juniors head...and when Paulie called him Van Helsing I almost pissed my pants

There will be a power struggle within the family and what Chase is getting at is this life all comes to a end...Either in Jail/death ..




Good review James Money

[Bekim...]

show sucked put me to sleep

[Jame$ Money]

Thanks Hater, and Tim ill be in Miami this coming Sunday but u better believe i will have a spot and a seat set up for the episode i dont care if every dj alive and dead are all playing at some club im watching that show if i gotta kill somebody to make it happen.

Like i said earlier, i heard at least three different sports radio shows spend upwards of 15 minutes each talking about the show today, i cant believe how everyone is watching it. To be honest i found it fascinating to see Carm, Meadow and AJ all speak to Tony from theyre hearts and not leave much out. Ill say it again, i found AJ's the most interesting ... Tony's only son, possibly reaching a growing point, the responsibilty a son feels for avenging an action like this taken on his father; i got a hard time believing the anger and emotions he's dealing with are just gonna subside. Keep in mind the previews for the show got AJ bugging out over something, grabbing a door and running out of a room and the opening episode showed how AJ is beginning to become a man, so all these things could very well go hand in hand.

[Bekim...]

I didnt speak to one person today that didnt say it was boring

[OuTRiGHT]

I didnt speak to one person today that didnt say it was boring

THATS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE STUPID

For years, most of "Sopranos" fandom has been divided into two intersecting sets: those who watch for the whacking and crude humor, and those who watch for the psychiatry and art-house storytelling. By putting the shooting right next to Tony's afterlife business trip, Chase is pushing his chips to the center of the table and telling the audience they had better go all in -- murder and therapy, flatulence jokes and metaphysics -- if they intend to stay at the table for this final season.

I HAD SOME DUMB DITZY AIRHEAD BITCH AT MY JOB TODAY TELL ME SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BORING , WITH THE DUMBEST FUCKIN LOOK ON HER FACE LIKE HAR HAR HAR IM A MORON, SHE SAID IT WAS BORING BUT REMEMBER SHES A DUMB DITZY AIRHEAD BITCH SO I TAKE WHAT SHE SAYS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT

[hightide85]

I didnt speak to one person today that didnt say it was boring

Same here dude.... but I guess we are all intellectually incapable of understanding the meanings. It's the Godfather apparently, now. If Edie Falco crying for an hour did it for me, I'd probably have a rainbow bumper sticker on my car.

[OuTRiGHT]

Beck, Just Out Of Curiousity List Some Scenarios That U Would Like To See Happen On The Show That U Would Approve Of . List Some Things That U Would Enjoy That Would Not Be "boring" And Try To Be A Little More Descriptive Then "mob Shit", And Anyone Else Who Thought It Was Boring Is More Then Welcome To Join In, Im Sure Ur Responses Will Be Thrilling......thanks In Advance

[Bekim...]

dude dont tell me you found lasts night episode to be interesting c'monn that shit was boring and AJ is terrible... first season was so good

[The Real Messi]

Okay, just watched the episode again on On Demand. Few new things I came up with. First off, the whole issue with the elevator being blocked. I dont know what the bear represents, if anything, but the elevator could represent the quick, easy way of getting somewhere. Whether it be down (Hell) or just somewhere (out of the place). Either way, the easy way is blocked. Tony is going to have to work at getting out of this place. On his way down the stairs, and when he is nearly half way to the ground floor he stumbles and falls. There are road blocks confronting him. He has not yet figured out exactly what it is meant for him here. He is taken to the hospital where the doctor informs him of the alzheimers.. Now what is important about this scene is that doctor tells him to "check with your doctors back home. Rest up here for a while". This would imply that in this 'other world' Tony is controlled by doctors, much like what is going on in real life. If this doctor told him to 'rest up here for a while' and to 'check with his doctors back home', he is implying that Tony will not have to stay there permanently. He will in fact be able to get home, but he needs to stay here for a while.

Also, the Bhuddists- They say they have been trying to reach him for months. Now, this could be all the attempts at brining religion to Tony (through Carm and the priest- cant remember his name off hand). Sending two Catholic priests to him would be too obvious, so they instead send Bhuddist monks, who refer to their monastery-- a religious 'community' common to Catholicism as well.

As for my previous comparison between AJ and Tony -- hair and smoking-- doesnt it seem odd that both complain of having upset stomachs? Tony cant eat his sandwich ordered at the bar, AJ got food poisoning? Also, in the way he responds to Meadow with the plate of food scene, AJ appears to be becoming as 'paranoid' or 'self-conscious' as Tony seems to be.


Also, all of the people in the people Tony confronts either make mention that where he is 'supposed to go' is booked or that he is only staying for a short while. The girl at the conference cant let him in even though Tony says "but Im on the list"-- possibly refering to his belief he is supposed to die. The hotel clerk says the place is booked with the conventions. Tony says "I was staying here last night as a guest".. Which is exactly what he is- a guest. hes not supposed to stay in this place for very long. The other hotel clerk says he has the single room for one night. Again, making reference to a short period of time. All in all, the people Tony comes up against remind him hes not supposed to stay here for long. This can be taken two ways-- hes not supposed to die, just to think over what hes been missing in life/supposed to change/be doing in life. Or that he is supposed to stay long enough to realize what is more important to him- his powerful side, backed by the mafia, or his family- which leaves him as powerless, 'like everyone else'.



wow, you made the episode easier to understand .. ty :yipee

[John Kennedy]

the closing song was fantastic: Moby - I'd like to die

[OuTRiGHT]

dude dont tell me you found lasts night episode to be interesting c'monn that shit was boring and AJ is terrible... first season was so good


u sound like a wackjob u really do, ur definitely just trying to fuck around and piss people off because i know u and u are definitely not this dumb

[OuTRiGHT]

u put me to sleep

[drumaboy]

I have a strange feeling the whole season is gonna be Tony in a Coma and a power struggle going down within the family for power

i agree, even if towards the end of the season he comes out of the coma, he'll still be bedridden, it'll only add more drama, plus its gonna be fun watching Beck flip out about it

[MiAmore]

plus its gonna be fun watching Beck flip out about it

i agree.. that is making this season worth it so far :chuckle

[Benny B]

Okay, just watched the episode again on On Demand. Few new things I came up with. First off, the whole issue with the elevator being blocked. I dont know what the bear represents, if anything, but the elevator could represent the quick, easy way of getting somewhere. Whether it be down (Hell) or just somewhere (out of the place). Either way, the easy way is blocked. Tony is going to have to work at getting out of this place. On his way down the stairs, and when he is nearly half way to the ground floor he stumbles and falls. There are road blocks confronting him. He has not yet figured out exactly what it is meant for him here. He is taken to the hospital where the doctor informs him of the alzheimers.. Now what is important about this scene is that doctor tells him to "check with your doctors back home. Rest up here for a while". This would imply that in this 'other world' Tony is controlled by doctors, much like what is going on in real life. If this doctor told him to 'rest up here for a while' and to 'check with his doctors back home', he is implying that Tony will not have to stay there permanently. He will in fact be able to get home, but he needs to stay here for a while.

Also, the Bhuddists- They say they have been trying to reach him for months. Now, this could be all the attempts at brining religion to Tony (through Carm and the priest- cant remember his name off hand). Sending two Catholic priests to him would be too obvious, so they instead send Bhuddist monks, who refer to their monastery-- a religious 'community' common to Catholicism as well.

As for my previous comparison between AJ and Tony -- hair and smoking-- doesnt it seem odd that both complain of having upset stomachs? Tony cant eat his sandwich ordered at the bar, AJ got food poisoning? Also, in the way he responds to Meadow with the plate of food scene, AJ appears to be becoming as 'paranoid' or 'self-conscious' as Tony seems to be.


Also, all of the people in the people Tony confronts either make mention that where he is 'supposed to go' is booked or that he is only staying for a short while. The girl at the conference cant let him in even though Tony says "but Im on the list"-- possibly refering to his belief he is supposed to die. The hotel clerk says the place is booked with the conventions. Tony says "I was staying here last night as a guest".. Which is exactly what he is- a guest. hes not supposed to stay in this place for very long. The other hotel clerk says he has the single room for one night. Again, making reference to a short period of time. All in all, the people Tony comes up against remind him hes not supposed to stay here for long. This can be taken two ways-- hes not supposed to die, just to think over what hes been missing in life/supposed to change/be doing in life. Or that he is supposed to stay long enough to realize what is more important to him- his powerful side, backed by the mafia, or his family- which leaves him as powerless, 'like everyone else'.


GREAT GREAT GREAT REVIEW RIGHT THERE!!!! DEF ON POINT

[Benny B]

I didnt speak to one person today that didnt say it was boring
SO YOU TALKED TO YOURSELF ALL DAY.... NICE....:applaud

[Bekim...]

i agree.. that is making this season worth it so far :chuckle
:grumpy

[Bekim...]

show sucked bring back the mob shit save the gay shit for the soaps in the daytime

[Penelicious]

show sucked bring back the mob shit save the gay shit for the soaps in the daytime


Gay shit? The last few seasons of the Sopranos has been about LIFE--the mob setting is just a BACKGROUND--get it?

I've been a huge fan of the Sopranos and I thought every season was beneficial to the story line--even when there was a lack of killing, sex with strippers, and cursing. The ups and downs of the show is what makes it "real". It shows that you are vulnerable to every bad thing about life, even if you ARE a mobster. Not everything is rosey and not every bad thing that happens to you in your life as a mobster revolves around the mob. You are succeptible to mental illness, physical illnessl...you can be gay, you can be straight and kinky, you can be lonely, and you can have all of the power in the world and STILL feel powerless.

It's GREAT IMO and people who knock the show for trying to show a side that hasn't been shown before are just shallow and only looking for the top layer.

[Bekim...]

Gay shit? The last few seasons of the Sopranos has been about LIFE--the mob setting is just a BACKGROUND--get it?

I've been a huge fan of the Sopranos and I thought every season was beneficial to the story line--even when there was a lack of killing, sex with strippers, and cursing. The ups and downs of the show is what makes it "real". It shows that you are vulnerable to every bad thing about life, even if you ARE a mobster. Not everything is rosey and not every bad thing that happens to you in your life as a mobster revolves around the mob. You are succeptible to mental illness, physical illnessl...you can be gay, you can be straight and kinky, you can be lonely, and you can have all of the power in the world and STILL feel powerless.

It's GREAT IMO and people who knock the show for trying to show a side that hasn't been shown before are just shallow and only looking for the top layer.


I miss you

[Penelicious]

I miss you


I miss you too Bekim!! :bighug

I hope you're well!! :heart

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

i didn't know Silvio was in the E-Street Band??

http://www.photofeatures.com/portfolio/brucespringsteen2002/images/prevs/Dscf2044b.jpg

[Jame$ Money]

i didn't know Silvio was in the E-Street Band??

http://www.photofeatures.com/portfolio/brucespringsteen2002/images/prevs/Dscf2044b.jpg

Yea u didnt know that ?

I think his real life wife actually had a small role in this week's episode too.

[Benny B]

i didn't know Silvio was in the E-Street Band??

http://www.photofeatures.com/portfolio/brucespringsteen2002/images/prevs/Dscf2044b.jpg
hes actually on the radio every sunday down here...

[OuTRiGHT]

so i watched it a second time and.........i still love it

[Bekim...]

so i watched it a second time and.........i still love it

the sad part is we have at least 3 more episodes of tony stuck in the hospital and watching that stupid kevin finnerty character.

[MiAmore]

the sad part is we have at least 3 more episodes of tony stuck in the hospital and watching that stupid kevin finnerty character.

:yipee

[Bekim...]

:yipee


brillant! riveting! gripping and powerful television!

[MiAmore]

brillant! riveting! gripping and powerful television!
yes beck! that is the spirit :lostit

[Bekim...]

yes beck! that is the spirit :lostit

deep and symbolic.. a+ acting


get da fuck outta here :booted

[J. Martin]

there should be more of meadow doing her pseudo strip tease for Joe Perry.

[Jame$ Money]

I watched it a second time last night too ... just as good a second time around.

By the way, i caught something in episode 2 i told Benny, lets see if anyone agrees with this :

When Tony is waiting for the elevator and the monks approach him they accuse him of something he didnt do ... mistaking him for someone else. Then they slap him, he falls and then run off. Tony gets up and shouts "he hit me" and then "dont let him get away".

Does anything think the old nutty monks (represented Junior) accusing Tony of actually being Kevin (Junior called Tony - Malenga, referring to Pussy Malenga) and cheating them out of heating (the money Junior was owed by Malenga) and then hitting him (Junior shooting Tony) and then running off (Junior running upstairs following the shooting) make that relation ?

I think so cause if u think of what Tony says "He hit me" (he shot me) and "Dont let him get away" (he wants to avenge this shooting) then maybe this is all heading to Tony eventually coming back and FINALLY cutting this old bitch out of the family and it makes sense cause when Tony's guys were discussing how to handle Junior, Paulie ends the discussion by telling the guys "This is Tony's Call" :)

[OuTRiGHT]

I watched it a second time last night too ... just as good a second time around.

By the way, i caught something in episode 2 i told Benny, lets see if anyone agrees with this :

When Tony is waiting for the elevator and the monks approach him they accuse him of something he didnt do ... mistaking him for someone else. Then they slap him, he falls and then run off. Tony gets up and shouts "he hit me" and then "dont let him get away".

Does anything think the old nutty monks (represented Junior) accusing Tony of actually being Kevin (Junior called Tony - Malenga, referring to Pussy Malenga) and cheating them out of heating (the money Junior was owed by Malenga) and then hitting him (Junior shooting Tony) and then running off (Junior running upstairs following the shooting) make that relation ?

I think so cause if u think of what Tony says "He hit me" (he shot me) and "Dont let him get away" (he wants to avenge this shooting) then maybe this is all heading to Tony eventually coming back and FINALLY cutting this old bitch out of the family and it makes sense cause when Tony's guys were discussing how to handle Junior, Paulie ends the discussion by telling the guys "This is Tony's Call" :)

nah i think ur readin too much into it james i dont see that one lol

[OuTRiGHT]

the sad part is we have at least 3 more episodes of tony stuck in the hospital and watching that stupid kevin finnerty character.

yea and do u know the chaos and turmoil that will be going on in the family while this is happening?? c'mon kid smarten up

[drumaboy]

there should be more of meadow doing her pseudo strip tease for Joe Perry.

joe perry! :LOL :LOL

"silvio's" radio show ROCKS!! best thing on the radio

and tony will def be in the hospital for 10 of the 12 episodes is my prediction, also, carmela will def get an emmy just from her acting on the first episode

and Bek will be slightly drunk with a cigarette dangling from the side of his mouth and a whopper jr in his hand, yelling at his TV each and every sunday about a basement, bensonhurst, chris paciello, and "IM SMAAAAAART, I CAN RUN THINGSSS".....while his patient, future wife swigs from the bottle of Manneschivitz to cope with it all....in other words, hes gonna go looney like Uncle Junior

[ShaE]

Tony checks into the Hotel California
Monday, March 20, 2006
by Alan Sepinwall

WARNING: This column contains major plot spoilers for last night's "Sopranos" episode. If you're waiting until later in the week to watch, read on at extreme peril.

IT'S NOT a dream. It's Purgatory.

When I had my annual summit with "Sopranos" creator David Chase a few weeks ago, I complimented him on having the onions to put a major dream sequence like this so early in the season, considering how many fans complain about the dreams.

"I, frankly, would not call those (episode two scenes) dreams," he said, which sent me scurrying back to watch my DVD over and over again, until (with some help from my wife) I got it.

Here Tony's stuck in Orange County, quite possibly the most personality-free corner of the world, with no way to leave (aka Purgatory). On one end of town is a shining beacon (Heaven), on the other, a raging forest fire (Hell). Over and over, he stops to assess the worth of his own life, asking, "Who am I? Where am I going?"

Then he steals the identity (sin) of Kevin Finnerty -- a heating salesman who lives in one of the hottest states of the union (Arizona) -- checks into another hotel, and falls down a red staircase, at which point he learns he has Alzheimer's (eternal damnation). And while Carmela's busy in the real world telling him he's not going to Hell, Tony's in Purgatory debating whether to tell his wife this is exactly the fate he has in store.

It may be hair-splitting to call this something other than a dream, but Tony's misadventures in Costa Mesa were much more linear and coherent than his regular dreams have ever been. There were important details scribbled in the margins (the bartender joking, "Around here, it's dead," or the "Are sin, disease and death real?" commercial on the TV), but there was an actual story here instead of Tony bouncing from one surreal tableau to another.

Still, Chase followed last week's watercooler cliffhanger with an 11-minute opening sequence set in a world that's not our own, with a Tony who wasn't quite right (it's startling to hear James Gandolfini's natural speaking voice), and only one split-second nod to the shooting (the brief flash of the doctor shining a light in Tony's eye mixed in with the chopper spotlight).

For years, most of "Sopranos" fandom has been divided into two intersecting sets: those who watch for the whacking and crude humor, and those who watch for the psychiatry and art-house storytelling. By putting the shooting right next to Tony's afterlife business trip, Chase is pushing his chips to the center of the table and telling the audience they had better go all in -- murder and therapy, flatulence jokes and metaphysics -- if they intend to stay at the table for this final season.

So will Tony ever get to check out of this hotel, and, if so, where will he end up? Again, I can't say, but if this season is going to be about a moral accounting for all of Tony's sins, then there's no better place to start.

Back in the physical world, give Edie Falco the Emmy right now. Just give it to her. Seriously. Do not pass Go, do not collect other nominations, just ship the statuette to her apartment today. There is no way any other actress on television is going to have two better scenes this year than Carmela's hallway breakdown and her monologue to Tony, scored perfectly to Tom Petty's "American Girl."

And is there an Emmy category for Best Silent Hug? Because Michael Imperioli was pretty great when he put his arm around Carmela in the hallway. I know scenes where characters sob or give long speeches are stock award-show bait, but these performances went so far past showing off that I actually had to look away a few times out of a feeling I was spying on a private moment between real people.

Some other random notes:

The song played at the end was Moby's "When It's Cold I'd Like To Die," with vocals by Mimi Goese.

The voice of Purgatory Tony's wife wasn't played by Annabella Sciorra, or any other actress who's been on the show before; she's just a generic non-Carmela female voice.

Boy, Janice's gift for making every moment of every day be all about her survives even her brother's shooting, huh? She shows up at the hospital, pretending she's there to help comfort Carmela, then immediately spazzes out so she's the center of attention. If I didn't know Janice so well from the last four seasons, I might have found her freak-out genuine, but this is Livia Soprano's daughter, people. And speaking of which...

Did you catch AJ throwing Livia's "Poor you!" at Meadow during their hybrid car argument? That's at least three other characters who've now used the old bat's pet insult (Tony and Gloria were the others), and it shows just how rotten and contagious the Soprano genes are.

Meanwhile, you have AJ trying to have his Michael Corleone moment with his plan to murder Junior, but the kid's still too dumb and weak to even pass for Fredo. Loved that he chose to waste all the good will from Carmela by telling her he flunked out of school. (If those other two scenes don't get Falco a drama actress Emmy, maybe she can win the comedy award for her delivery of "With your father in a coma!"

The overall mood was grim, but Vito had the line of the night, if not the season, when he speculated about Eugene's suicide, "Maybe he was a homo, felt there was no one he could talk to about it. That happens, too." Oh, Vito, project much?

In the days after the premiere, many people floated the theory that it was really the finale and the rest of the series would be flashbacks leading up to Tony's shooting. Obviously, that's not the way things are going, and it wouldn't have worked, since not enough of interest had happened to the characters since we saw them last. Yes, Janice and Bacala have spawned, and AJ's hair is longer, but it's not like we came back from hiatus with Silvio missing and Chris wearing an eyepatch. The premiere established that Tony's life had been profitable but uneventful since his jog through the woods.

Now, is Agent Harris really that in love with Satriale's veal parm, or he is baiting a hook to turn Christopher into a cooperator? Nothing on this show is a coincidence, and a few scenes after Harris mentioned Matush, the terrorist-supporting drug dealer, we saw a couple of Middle Eastern men chatting up Chrissie at the Bing.
Hmm...

[hightide85]

anyone that writes a lot about a tv show needs one of these:

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[ShaE]

anyone that writes a lot about a tv show needs one of these:

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~squadron/pocketp.gif

Oh ok, so writing about film, books and sports is fine but not about tv shows :yourcrazy

[hightide85]

I'm just being a dick as usual... lol

[ShaE]

I'm just being a dick as usual... lol
and I'm just bustin your chops as usual :yipee