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hevn
06-14-2007, 05:12 PM
So, ive gained a substantial amount of weight in the past year. Not that i dislike the weight, but i dont like the form of it. Now bc ive always been an extremely tiny girl my entire life, i have never worked out or had to eat anything besides what my stomach desired. Recently i feel like everything i eat i just put the weight on more and more. And with the Grave's Disease its not helping any that my metabolism is all haywire, so ive got to make sure i keep a close eye on my weight.

I have no idea how to work out. And quite frankly, other then the treadmil, i would know what machines are what or even what they are used for. So im basically looking for a simple tone up workout that i can do at home. Besides the whole running deal.

My main focus points : tummy, upper arms, thighs & butt.


Any suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated!!

Chris
06-14-2007, 05:39 PM
try ediets.com

my girl subscribed to them great informational site.

gotta get some weight training in there the home workouts will really only take you so far.

HEAVY METAL
06-14-2007, 05:56 PM
i would start walking an hour each day b4 work and doing some yoga at night.

i can ask my friend if you want - i remeber she would LITERALLY put on like 20 lbs o v e r n i g h t.

if anyone knows about what your going thru its her :console

* and at least your not gaining weight bc yoru a fat sloth of a pig like me :chuckle

Chris
06-14-2007, 06:00 PM
weights weights weights,

if you don't do some sort of resistance training your walking and running really works against you.

you need to build muscle to burn fat. fat doesn't just go away when you do tons of cardio and you lose scale weight your actually lost water some fat and a whole lot of muscle. the key to looking good is building muscle which will make you appear thinner and leaner and also burn more calories all day everyday.

i think i wrote this about 35 times already in this forum..

1 way. work out with weights do cardio, and eat right. thats the ONLY way. believe me. the only way.

James Maxx
06-14-2007, 06:02 PM
weights weights weights,

if you don't do some sort of resistance training your walking and running really works against you.

you need to build muscle to burn fat. fat doesn't just go away when you do tons of cardio and you lose scale weight your actually lost water some fat and a whole lot of muscle. the key to looking good is building muscle which will make you appear thinner and leaner and also burn more calories all day everyday.

i think i wrote this about 35 times already in this forum..

1 way. work out with weights do cardio, and eat right. thats the ONLY way. believe me. the only way.

Amen to that because you can take every supplement and steroid you want if you dont follow the basics of eating right and exercising regularly you are just wasting time and money.

hevn
06-14-2007, 06:02 PM
i would start walking an hour each day b4 work and doing some yoga at night.

i can ask my friend if you want - i remeber she would LITERALLY put on like 20 lbs o v e r n i g h t.

if anyone knows about what your going thru its her :console

* and at least your not gaining weight bc yoru a fat sloth of a pig like me :chuckle
You know whats weird, is that in very few cases does the disease make you gain weight. Normally, bc the thyroid is overactive, it makes you skinny.

So on top of needing to get into shape, ive got to deal with that on top of it. Which isnt making anything easier for me.

Def. ask her what she did to regulate her weight and/or tone up. I hate that i dont even eat alot but my body is retarded and keeps it all instead of burning it off.

hevn
06-14-2007, 06:04 PM
Sooo...just run and lift weights and eat stuff that is boring?

how long does it take to see any results?

TIANA
06-14-2007, 06:11 PM
a long time... but if your patient, you will see results.

DEEPER KEMICAL
06-14-2007, 06:13 PM
Sooo...just run and lift weights and eat stuff that is boring?

how long does it take to see any results?
the weight wasn't put on over night, so don't expect it to come off as easily.


work hard towards it and you will get the benefits

hevn
06-14-2007, 06:14 PM
a long time... but if your patient, you will see results.
great. im the most impatient person i know lol

Chris
06-14-2007, 06:15 PM
a long time... but if your patient, you will see results.

its all about patience,

slow and steady is the way.

Chris
06-14-2007, 06:16 PM
the weight wasn't put on over night, so don't expect it to come off as easily.


work hard towards it and you will get the benefits

nothing in life is worth anything without struggle.

hevn
06-14-2007, 06:18 PM
i dont want to lose that much, maybe 5 lbs at most.

i just want my body to look nice. not ripped, but nice

Chris
06-14-2007, 06:18 PM
Amen to that because you can take every supplement and steroid you want if you dont follow the basics of eating right and exercising regularly you are just wasting time and money.

even with the use of supps and roids you still need to be very strict work out like an animal or else like you said its a waste of time and money.

you gotta commit 100%, like swinging a bat or throwing a punch if you don't give it your all and swing for the fences or to decapate ssomeone your just waiting to get struck out or KO....

HEAVY METAL
06-14-2007, 06:19 PM
u and me both.

see she was having BOTH effects...she would loose a TON then GAIn a ton :shrugger

ill ask...she had to get her thyroid removed later on but she still had her metathyroid or soemthing..

i dunno girl

did you myspace her?

HEAVY METAL
06-14-2007, 06:19 PM
i think everyone is forgetting the grave's component :agree

layla
06-14-2007, 06:22 PM
when you do tons of cardio and you lose scale weight your actually lost water some fat and a whole lot of muscle.

I don't get this. If you're not working out at all and you have x amount of muscle. Then you start doing cardio, which you are actually using your muscles more than before when you were sitting on your ass. So really you should be building a little, so how does it work that you lose more muscle than fat?

hevn
06-14-2007, 06:35 PM
u and me both.

see she was having BOTH effects...she would loose a TON then GAIn a ton :shrugger

ill ask...she had to get her thyroid removed later on but she still had her metathyroid or soemthing..

i dunno girl

did you myspace her?
no i forgot to look, ill check it out now.

and i think thats gonna be on my only solution to this. being that ive got a huge goiter & it makes my neck look like its pregnant.

layla
06-14-2007, 06:44 PM
This is the first article on google about "burning muscle". http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100138677

It pretty much says that it's not true that the average person burns muscle from doing cardio and it's most certainly not a "whole lot". I've always felt like this is some bs that musclebuilders like to tell people. It really just doesn't seem to make any logical sense.

If you have anything that explains exactly how someone is burning tons of muscle by doing a lot of cardio, I'd love to see it. I see so many guys saying that on here but never seen anyone post info on exactly how it happens. I'm just curious. :)

HEAVY METAL
06-14-2007, 06:58 PM
no i forgot to look, ill check it out now.

and i think thats gonna be on my only solution to this. being that ive got a huge goiter & it makes my neck look like its pregnant.

im gunnacall her in a few so ill make sure she gets back to you!!!!

Chris
06-14-2007, 07:46 PM
I don't get this. If you're not working out at all and you have x amount of muscle. Then you start doing cardio, which you are actually using your muscles more than before when you were sitting on your ass. So really you should be building a little, so how does it work that you lose more muscle than fat?

you use your muscles to brush your teeth too. you don't make substaintail resistance in that excersice to build a muscle. a muscle is only built up by breaking it down with resistance then it repairs and grws bigger.


ever wonder why cyclists and runners look like a bag of bones?!

you loose muscle anyone feel free to chime in on this.

anytime you do excessive aerobic activity you lose muscle. everytime.
so if your not building it back with weights in the end your losing muscle.

and running even tho its weight bearing excersice is only your body weight therefore you will only build so much.

its tried and true im not making this stuff up.

the one article you have shown is the mininal contridiction to the entire web of actual information pertaining to this.

cardio burns fat, and muscle,

weights burn fat and BUILD muscle. simple .

Chris
06-14-2007, 07:58 PM
oh ya

http://www.alive.com/3881a6a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=94
http://health.ninemsn.com.au/asktheexperts/expert2.aspx?id=229377


cardio ALONE does harm,
cardio with weight training will yeild the best results all the time always.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0846/is_2_22/ai_91233455
http://www.peertrainer.com/LoungeCommunityThread.aspx?ForumID=1&ThreadID=46496
http://www.mikementzer.com/aerobic.html
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/articles-submit/lynn-vandyke/cardio-vs-strength-training.html
http://www.solveyourproblem.com/exercise-workouts/cardio_exercise_vs_weight_training.shtml

i can go on and on all day.

the best way to do it is to use both cardio and strength conditioning.

you can do cardio and burn yourself to a twig, or workout and build that muscle while doing cardio stripping the fat.

cardio builds your heart it helps burn some calories it helps increase lung capacity.

but if you want to burn the most fat in the shortest time...

workout ... and do cardio.





can't have peanut butter without the jelly.

layla
06-14-2007, 08:41 PM
Ok you said I read one article that shows different from the other mass amounts of information out there. But I just read the first 5 links you posted and none of them say that excessive cardio burns muscle or causes harm. All they are saying is that cardio and weight training are better than doing just cardio, but no one is arguing that so it's a moot point to be addressing.

So where is all this info on burning a "whole lot" of (or even any) muscle by doing cardio? I just want to see a description of how it happens. None of the articles you posted back that up. Actually the article I posted explains how it is possible, if your body starts to run low on carbs to burn, but it also says that is not very likely to happen. You would pretty much have to be starving and even then, while yes, your body would resort to burning protien, it can pull those protiens from different areas of your body. That's just one article I came across but if it's wrong then please show me all this information that says otherwise.

And you're not the only one I've heard say this so if anyone has any info showing how it happens, then I'd love hear it.

Chris
06-14-2007, 09:24 PM
your article is very misleading. and its 1 article to proclaim this, none the less on google.....

Can Exercise ‘Burn Muscle’?

This claim is slightly misleading. You certainly do not burn muscle after only 15 minutes of exercise. You start using protein (perhaps from muscle, as well as other amino-acid-containing components in the body) for energy under extreme conditions such as starvation and at the tail end of long, hard endurance events where carb stores are in short supply. The average person who works out does not need to worry about this.

Will More Muscle Rev Up Your Metabolism?

In short, probably not. The average person won’t lose muscle from doing cardio and won’t burn more fat by building more muscle, mostly because one has to eat more than usual (not diet) and lift seriously heavy weights to build more muscle. And even then that person probably won’t build enough muscle to make a difference. Dr. Joseph Donnelly and other leading exercise physiologists conducted a comprehensive review of all the research on exercise and weight loss for the American College of Sports Medicine. While resistance training was recommended for its beneficial role in potentially improving muscle strength and power, the physiologists found no evidence that increasing muscle mass enhanced weight loss, especially when combined with dieting.

i think the disconect is the fact that your comparing apples and oranges.

excessice long winded cardio sessions will burn muscle.

not running for a half hour a day.

also running long winded cardio and not doing HIIT does help to burn proteins.

this statement is a weird one

You would pretty much have to be starving and even then, while yes, your body would resort to burning protien, it can pull those protiens from different areas of your body.

what different areas have protien in your body? this is way off base. only 1 area besides the food sitting in your system harbors protein. and there called your muscles. thats why when we eat chicken we eat its MUSCLE as a protein source no ones nibbling on its gizzards to substitute for a chicken breats. there is only 1 source of protien in your body its your muscles. once body is constantly going catabolic in your sleep if you don't eat for more than 3 hours it starts to feed off your muscle. what i have been sayin from the begginin of this post was cardio ALONE will burn your muscles away if you just run alll the time. you need to balance that out with weight training to put some back. its really a basic concept.

the idea was never about cardio being bad. rather i was commenting on the fact that people want to run alone, and if thats what you would like to do knock yourself out. but people were talking about weight loss, and sorry running everydaywithout weight training will cuase you to loose muscle. ganranteed. i have seen it with my own eyes. its also a combination of most people not eating or eating less AND running.
Im quite sure if someone wanted to loose weight and slowed there eating habits (thats only a no brainer) and ran all the time without working out, they would look like shit.

long runs on a treadmill for long periods of time without proper strength training. no ones doubting the fact that cardio is good for you and will help you loose fat, BUT and a huge BUT cardio ALONE will do more harm then good in my personal opinion. mixed with weights its great. above taht HIIT training is better for overall condition and body fat removal than running 4 miles straight on a treadmill. you can get more for less.

read this

http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

hitt works best, unless of course you want to devote 3 hours a day to running. im sorry but long winded cardio sessions will most def burn up fat and muscle and without strengthening your body and building muscle will make you look terrible.
after all thats teh reason we are working out in the first place, not to be a marathon runner.

Chris
06-14-2007, 09:40 PM
and heres the reasoning behind this all taken from an article on muscle101.com

Surely you've noticed that you breathe heavier, and your heart beats faster when you excercise, do you have any idea why? To get more oxygen to the muscle. Oxygen is used in fat oxidization, a.k.a. fat burning. In fact, measuring the rate of oxygen consumption is one method used in determining amount of fat burned up (glycogen oxidization also occurs though).

So the cardinal rule of cardio is to reach and maintain a certain target heart rate. This target heart rate gets lower as you get older, maybe because the target heart rate is a % of basal metabolic rate which drops as you age as well(except maybe in very active folks). This is a speculation of mine, so I'm not 100% sure why this is.

Regardless, your heart has to beat faster! So why not beat as fast as possible, why only a range from say 120-150 beats per minute(bpm)? Too high an intensity causes glycogen stores to be mobilized, causing lactic acid buildup, muscle fatigue, and muscle cramps. Also leads to greater utilization of intra-muscular fat stores (not really bodyfat), and muscle protein for energy which means muscle breakdown.

When comparing 25% VO2 max. with 65% VO2 max. (light intensity(could do it for 10 hours) vs. medium intensity (could do it for 1-4 hours)), there are som interesting results. 25% intensity uses more % calories from body fat than 65% intensity, but total calories burn are say 70 vs. 110. So though the percentage is less for 65%, the net calories from body fat will be higher.

So medium intensity may be quite beneficial as well. So where to the rest of the calories come from during medium intensity exercise? Well, intra-muscular fat stores play an important role at this level. This fat isn't really considered body fat, as it is stored in the muscle cells themselves. So if we burn more of these during medium intensity exercise, would it not be safe to say that these stores must be replenished as well?

I would venture to say that medium intensity may be the way to go because it burns more net bodyfat calories than light, and excess fatty acids in the blood after exercise may get stored in the muscle to replace used up intra-musclular fat instead of body fat again.

Maybe this is one of the reasone interval training has become quite popular lately. This is probably the best overall way to do cardio. It mobilizes body fat and intra-muscular fat, and can be sustained for longer than medium intensity alone could (an is probably more comfortable as well).

I would also like to say that no cardio session should exceed about 40 minutes. Anything past this tends to promotes muscle protein breakdown in a big way. If you really want to do more cardio, split it up into several smaller sessions per day.

TIANA
06-14-2007, 11:17 PM
great. im the most impatient person i know lol

i haven't seen you in a while, but i do know you always had a great ass and nice boobies for a thin chica.... :) so... don't let a few pounds stress you out....

denisek
06-14-2007, 11:18 PM
Sooo...just run and lift weights and eat stuff that is boring?

how long does it take to see any results?

I'm not sure what type of answer you are looking for here. If it were easy everyone would have ripped bodies and be thin.
It will take you about a month to see any results and that is only if you are consistent. When there is a small amt of weight to lose it takes longer than if you were overweight, because your body will hold on to it thinking it needs it for sustenance.
Biggest mistake is starving yourself. Do not cut out food, just eat smaller portions. If you stay full your body will keep metabolizing. You will see a difference if you cut out fast food and soda/sugary drinks. Drink plenty of water.

denisek
06-14-2007, 11:24 PM
Muscle is a fickle tissue. It atrophies and burns very easily, moreso than fat. The body is predisposed to hold on to fat cells because there is energy in fat.
Only way to build or maintain muscle is with resistance ie. weight training.

woo
06-15-2007, 12:02 AM
Sooo...just run and lift weights and eat stuff that is boring?

how long does it take to see any results?

does it matter? if u r doing the right thing, the results will come.

even when you get results u need to continue.. it's a lifestyle change, not a mission with one goal.

hevn
06-15-2007, 12:06 AM
i haven't seen you in a while, but i do know you always had a great ass and nice boobies for a thin chica.... :) so... don't let a few pounds stress you out....
i put on alot since u last saw me lol

woo
06-15-2007, 12:08 AM
i think everyone is forgetting the grave's component :agree

well if she has it then she should be betting treated for it.

they laser and kill off the thyroid and she should go on pills... synthroid, thyroxine etc.

anyone ive even known with this condition follows that protocol.

thyroid dysfunction is pretty simple. u either have too much or too little- that is determined by an endocrinologist. otherwise there isn't a correlation btwn thyroid dysfunction and working out.

nicole if ur walking around with a dysfunctional thyroid go get treated.

hevn
06-15-2007, 12:16 AM
I'm not sure what type of answer you are looking for here. If it were easy everyone would have ripped bodies and be thin.
It will take you about a month to see any results and that is only if you are consistent. When there is a small amt of weight to lose it takes longer than if you were overweight, because your body will hold on to it thinking it needs it for sustenance.
Biggest mistake is starving yourself. Do not cut out food, just eat smaller portions. If you stay full your body will keep metabolizing. You will see a difference if you cut out fast food and soda/sugary drinks. Drink plenty of water.
see the problem is my metabolism. im guessing alot of u read over the fact that i have Grave's Disease. which is an auto-immune disease that attacks ur thyroid thinking its a foreign body. Ur thyroid is what controls ur metabolism which in turn effects ur weight.

My entire life up until a year and a half ago ive always been VERY thin. im talking 95 lbs thin. typically this disease makes ur thyroid produce extra TSH which will end up burning off alot more fat then needed which makes u thin, or never be able to put on weight. But, ive been symptomatic to Hiroshimo's, which is the opposite of graves. makes you put on weight. Its not usually a symptom of it but in rare cases it can be.

Now, with that said...i am trying my best to avoid heavy medications bc this will cause my thyroid to become underactive and will cause me to gain even more weight. ( i know, i just cant win ). But the doctors say with excercise i will be able to control it. So what i was asking for in the beginning of this thread was for someone to help me out with a simple workout i can do at home that would help me out. Being that im partially retarded and afraid to step into a gym. ( yes, i once fell on the treadmil )

Im not sure dieting will do much for me. Bc at this point no matter what im eating, my body is so wacked out that im gonna gain weight. i dunno...some days i look thin and other days i look fat. its weird.

But anyways im just looking for a way to lose a couple of lbs and to keep it that way. yanno?

woo
06-15-2007, 12:19 AM
I don't get this. If you're not working out at all and you have x amount of muscle. Then you start doing cardio, which you are actually using your muscles more than before when you were sitting on your ass. So really you should be building a little, so how does it work that you lose more muscle than fat?


cardio is aerobic. u don't build muscle with aerobics... in fact u actually burn a small % of protein whenever u do a cardio workout.... along with fat
now the science as to how to get most out of ur cardio/fat burn and sacrifice the least amount of protein or muscle is the controversey. :popcorn

u need muscle to burn fat. one pound of muscle burns 30-50 Calories a day just by being there. but u gotta keep it t here- going apeshyt on cardio will burn the protein then ull bee burning less fat. make sense?



if u wanna build muscle mass, u gotta fatigue the muscles anaerobically aka lifting/explosive training i believe u still burn some protein this way, but this is th eway to set ur body up for building lean mass.

hevn
06-15-2007, 12:20 AM
well if she has it then she should be betting treated for it.

they laser and kill off the thyroid and she should go on pills... synthroid, thyroxinem etc.

anyone ive even known with this condition follows that protocol.

the thyroid function it's pretty simple. u either have too much or too little- that is determined by an endocrinologist. otherwise there isn't a correlation btwn pathological thyroid function and working out.

nicole if ur walking around with a dysfunctional thyroid go get treated.
I am not looking to have my thyroid removed. Nor am i looking for it to be killed with radioactive treatments. Only other solution would be to be on medication and hope that eventually the goiter and graves goes away. rare, but could happen.

I am being treated for it. BUT that doesnt take away what ive already gained. So now along with dealing with the fact that my metabolism is fucked each way u look at it i have to make sure i work out...which, like i said, i have no idea how to do lol

denisek
06-15-2007, 12:24 AM
see the problem is my metabolism. im guessing alot of u read over the fact that i have Grave's Disease. which is an auto-immune disease that attacks ur thyroid thinking its a foreign body. Ur thyroid is what controls ur metabolism which in turn effects ur weight.

My entire life up until a year and a half ago ive always been VERY thin. im talking 95 lbs thin. typically this disease makes ur thyroid produce extra TSH which will end up burning off alot more fat then needed which makes u thin, or never be able to put on weight. But, ive been symptomatic to Hiroshimo's, which is the opposite of graves. makes you put on weight. Its not usually a symptom of it but in rare cases it can be.

I didn't read over it. With proper medication it is controlled. And you said yourself you used to eat whatever you wanted. So the first step is not doing that.
That being said - if you want some at home exercises, go buy some ankle weights and 5 lb. dumbbells. Google home workouts, research this health forum, and read Shape magazine - its good for beginners.

hevn
06-15-2007, 12:28 AM
I didn't read over it. With proper medication it is controlled. And you said yourself you used to eat whatever you wanted. So the first step is not doing that.
That being said - if you want some at home exercises, go buy some ankle weights and 5 lb. dumbbells. Google home workouts, research this health forum, and read Shape magazine - its good for beginners.
good answer.

thank u :agree

woo
06-15-2007, 12:28 AM
see the problem is my metabolism. im guessing alot of u read over the fact that i have Grave's Disease. which is an auto-immune disease that attacks ur thyroid thinking its a foreign body. Ur thyroid is what controls ur metabolism which in turn effects ur weight.

My entire life up until a year and a half ago ive always been VERY thin. im talking 95 lbs thin. typically this disease makes ur thyroid produce extra TSH which will end up burning off alot more fat then needed which makes u thin, or never be able to put on weight. But, ive been symptomatic to Hiroshimo's, which is the opposite of graves. makes you put on weight. Its not usually a symptom of it but in rare cases it can be.

Now, with that said...i am trying my best to avoid heavy medications bc this will cause my thyroid to become underactive and will cause me to gain even more weight. ( i know, i just cant win ). But the doctors say with excercise i will be able to control it. So what i was asking for in the beginning of this thread was for someone to help me out with a simple workout i can do at home that would help me out. Being that im partially retarded and afraid to step into a gym. ( yes, i once fell on the treadmil )

Im not sure dieting will do much for me. Bc at this point no matter what im eating, my body is so wacked out that im gonna gain weight. i dunno...some days i look thin and other days i look fat. its weird.

But anyways im just looking for a way to lose a couple of lbs and to keep it that way. yanno?
you don't want to take medication??

but you w ill risk this??:

What could happen if this disease is left untreated?
If left untreated, Graves’ Disease can lead to heart problems and problems in pregnancy, and an increased risk of a miscarriage. Severe, untreated Graves’ Disease can be fatal. Thyrotoxic storm is a rare life-threatening condition that develops in cases of untreated hyperthyroidism. It is usually brought on by an acute stress, such as trauma surgery or infection. Symptoms are severe, with a pounding heart, sweating, restlessness, shaking, diarrhea, change in consciousness, agitation and confusion. Congestive heart failure can develop rapidly and lead to death.
http://www.4woman.gov/faq/graves.htm#f

with these coronary risks you shouldn't be stepping near a gym without treatment.

there is the best advice you will get in this thread.

go get treated u lil psycho!! :cursing

hevn
06-15-2007, 12:33 AM
you don't want to take medication??

but you w ill risk this??:

What could happen if this disease is left untreated?
If left untreated, Graves’ Disease can lead to heart problems and problems in pregnancy, and an increased risk of a miscarriage. Severe, untreated Graves’ Disease can be fatal. Thyrotoxic storm is a rare life-threatening condition that develops in cases of untreated hyperthyroidism. It is usually brought on by an acute stress, such as trauma surgery or infection. Symptoms are severe, with a pounding heart, sweating, restlessness, shaking, diarrhea, change in consciousness, agitation and confusion. Congestive heart failure can develop rapidly and lead to death.
http://www.4woman.gov/faq/graves.htm#f

with these coronary risks you shouldn't be stepping near a gym without treatment.

there is the best advice you will get in this thread.

go get treated u lil psycho!! :cursing
no no i am being treated.

but i dont want to be on that heavy medication that they give u when u get it removed or killed.

i already have all those symptoms. sometimes it feels like my heart is pumping thru my chest. i once thought i was having a heart attack and had to go to the hospital.

i shake uncontrollably. i cant hold a pen straight. my hair falls out, im going gray at 23...sucks.

but back to the subject at hand....

woo
06-15-2007, 12:40 AM
I am not looking to have my thyroid removed. Nor am i looking for it to be killed with radioactive treatments. Only other solution would be to be on medication and hope that eventually the goiter and graves goes away. rare, but could happen.

I am being treated for it. BUT that doesnt take away what ive already gained. So now along with dealing with the fact that my metabolism is fucked each way u look at it i have to make sure i work out...which, like i said, i have no idea how to do lol

well u said u did't want to take heavy medication... if you have to then do it. it's not all about weight gain- it's how fast ur entire body metabolizes EVERYTHING.

im just concerned thats y i put it out there. no need to argue this.

anyways i know a lady who got her thyroid lasered and she is on hormone pills. boy did she gain a good 80 lbs as she went back to college to become a nurse.
she works out and sweats her ass off on the cardio machines. but she won't do weights.
and her weight is comnig off SO SLOWLY

whatever u do be sure to combine weight resistance and cardio. please take ur pulse throughout ur workout. PLEASE :heart

hevn
06-15-2007, 12:43 AM
well u said u did't want to take heavy medication... if you have to then do it. it's not all about weight gain- it's how fast ur entire body metabolizes EVERYTHING.

im just concerned thats y i put it out there. no need to argue this.

anyways i know a lady who got her thyroid lasered and she is on hormone pills. boy did she gain a good 80 lbs as she went back to college to become a nurse.
she works out and sweats her ass off on the cardio machines. but she won't do weights.
and her weight is comnig off SO SLOWLY

whatever u do be sure to combine weight resistance and cardio. please take ur pulse throughout ur workout. PLEASE :heart
thank u mama woo :heart

i know ur concerned. i luff you.

TIANA
06-15-2007, 09:25 AM
i put on alot since u last saw me lol

i'm sure it's not that much.... :)

Chris
06-15-2007, 11:52 AM
Muscle is a fickle tissue. It atrophies and burns very easily, moreso than fat. The body is predisposed to hold on to fat cells because there is energy in fat.
Only way to build or maintain muscle is with resistance ie. weight training.

exactly.

i wish i could have said it like that, in those many words... lol

Chris
06-15-2007, 11:53 AM
no no i am being treated.

but i dont want to be on that heavy medication that they give u when u get it removed or killed.

i already have all those symptoms. sometimes it feels like my heart is pumping thru my chest. i once thought i was having a heart attack and had to go to the hospital.

i shake uncontrollably. i cant hold a pen straight. my hair falls out, im going gray at 23...sucks.

but back to the subject at hand....

damn i didnt know all that. i hope everything works out for you.

your young you can bounce back easy, and a litle weight on a girls rump never hurt no one so don't stress.

toprockcantbstoppd
06-18-2007, 05:25 AM
Basic Bodyweight exercises and serious cardio training should help...along with better, not boring, eating habits. Push-ups, various types of crunches, hindu squats, burpees/hindu push-ups, lunges, pull-ups/chin-ups, waterbag curls for resistace training. Interval training. jump roping, shadowboxing for cardio. Aside from all the bullshit, you simply need to burn more total calories than you take in on a daily basis. So you might have to actually start paying attention to what you eat.

hevn
06-18-2007, 07:18 AM
Basic Bodyweight exercises and serious cardio training should help...along with better, not boring, eating habits. Push-ups, various types of crunches, hindu squats, burpees/hindu push-ups, lunges, pull-ups/chin-ups, waterbag curls for resistace training. Interval training. jump roping, shadowboxing for cardio. Aside from all the bullshit, you simply need to burn more total calories than you take in on a daily basis. So you might have to actually start paying attention to what you eat.
i really have zero idea of any of those things u told me to do.

i kid u not.

La DiViNa
06-18-2007, 11:06 AM
i would start walking an hour each day b4 work and doing some yoga at night.

I agree with Amber. :agree

I am heavy into yoga & when I start it, I lose weight so quick & become very lean.

I do 1/2 hour of cardio & an hour yoga class. On the days when I don't have yoga I incorporate some light (heavy in the leg/butt area though-it's needed :keke) weight training.

It shouldn't be difficult for you to lose your recent weight gain. Just pick up the physical activity. :)

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