ahmadjihad visting south american leftists

[lolz]

With alliances like these we definitely need to keep our borders open..

Ahmadinejad Visiting Leftist Regimes in South America
Thursday , September 27, 2007


LA PAZ, Bolivia —

Vilified by world leaders wary of his nuclear ambitions, Iran's president is turning to South American leftists who are embracing him as an energy and trade partner and counterweight to U.S. influence.

On the heels of a U.N. General Assembly appearance in which he said Iran will ignore demands by "arrogant powers" to curb its nuclear program, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was headed to Bolivia on Thursday to establish first-time diplomatic relations with the Andean nation.

He and President Evo Morales were expected to sign accords that Bolivian officials say could help them better tap the continent's second-largest natural gas reserves after Venezuela's and drum up urgently needed agricultural investment.

Ahmadinejad then heads to Caracas to meet Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez, who has defended Iran's claims that its nuclear program is for peaceful energy purposes.

Ahmadinejad's trip south underscores his strengthening links to Latin American nations that also include Nicaragua and Ecuador even as the United States tries to isolate him internationally.

"It's a connection that is growing stronger all the time," said Alberto Garrido, a Venezuelan writer and political analyst. "It's Iran's answer to the United States on its own home turf. The United States is in the Middle East, so Iran is in Latin America."

Energy experts doubt the new Bolivia-Iran alliance will let Morales deliver on his promise of using gas profits to ease grinding poverty in South America's poorest nation. But by opening diplomatic ties, Iran and Morales' "anti-imperialist" administration appear to be on the same political page.

The growing closeness between Iran and Chavez-allied governments is viewed with alarm by the opposition in Venezuela and Bolivia, and by Washington, which calls Iran a sponsor of terrorism.

The move reminds U.S. Rep. Connie Mack, a Florida Republican, "of the relationship that Fidel Castro had with Russia."

"Ahmadinejad recognizes that if he can get a foothold in Latin America, he can continue to spread his hatred for the United States," Mack said, adding that it is now imperative for Washington to reach out more to a region analysts say it largely ignored post-Sept. 11, 2001.

"You don't want to have your enemy at your backdoor."

While Morales' opponents say the stronger ties could threaten regional security, Bolivian Vice President Alvaro Garcia says his government doesn't endorse nuclear proliferation and the two nations simply want to build commercial ties.

Bolivia is forging "diplomatic relations with Iran to improve the country's economic situation, not to hurt or offend anyone," Garcia said while Morales was in New York this week at the U.N.

Bolivian and Iranian officials declined to offer details on what sort of energy agreements are in the works, but analysts say Iran alone can't give Bolivia the massive investment it needs to boost gas output in the face of potential domestic shortages and looming commitments to its big clients, Argentina and Brazil.

"I think the fact that Morales is talking to the Iranians is a sign of desperation," said Christopher Garman, who heads Latin American research at the Eurasia Group political risk consultancy. "Bolivia is not going to have a white horse saving its energy needs."

But Bolivia-Iran trade can hardly go anywhere but up.

Bolivia exported nothing to Iran between 2000 and 2006, and Iranian exports to Bolivia totaled just $10 million last year, according to government statistics, down from $24 million a year earlier.

Meanwhile, ties between Caracas and Tehran are strong and growing. Iran and Venezuela have signed more than 180 trade agreements since 2001, worth more than $20 billion in potential investment between the two, according to Iran's official news agency, IRNA.

Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa also wants closer ties with Tehran, and Iran's PressTV reported last month that Iran will for the first time open an embassy in Quito.

President Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua last month accepted promised Iranian aid of funding for 4,000 tractors, milk-processing plants, 10,000 houses, piers and the construction of a farm equipment assembly plant. In exchange, Nicaragua agreed to export coffee, meat and bananas to Iran.

Chavez is a vocal defender of Iran's nuclear program, accusing the United States of trumping up unfounded concerns about possible nuclear weapons as a pretext to attack a regime it opposes.

"Iran isn't making an atomic bomb, not at all," Chavez said Monday. "They just want to develop nuclear energy. Venezuela will do it also someday."

[James Maxx]

I dont see a problem with this. We pretty much raped South America in the 80s and early 90s and trade with many countries. Our country has no say in what Iran does with South America.

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Its a natural alliance.... our bully foreign policy is making "the other side" stick together .. eventhough they might have zero in common (communists and islamists arent exactly bedfellows, lol) yet another wonderful consequence from out neocon foreign policy over the last 7 years.

[lolz]

I dont see a problem with this. We pretty much raped South America in the 80s and early 90s and trade with many countries. Our country has no say in what Iran does with South America.

You don't see a problem with one of our biggest enemies forming alliances with other enemies that are close to our border?

[Defekted]

Hey LOLZ guess what..... i heard in 2030 the US will be 50% minority..... MUAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAA :evil

better close up that border quick!!!!

and what the hell are you doing in Jersey City? You need to go quickly to Idaho.... youll be safe there for at least 20 more years.....

[jameznyhc]

Hey LOLZ guess what..... i heard in 2030 the US will be 50% minority..... MUAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAA :evil

better close up that border quick!!!!

and what the hell are you doing in Jersey City? You need to go quickly to Idaho.... youll be safe there for at least 20 more years.....

because he opposes iran forming relations with venzuala and posted an article on it he's a racist ...you need to be banned son ..all you do you attack others and never the issues bro .. how is this thread fuckin racist?

[lolz]

Hey LOLZ guess what..... i heard in 2030 the US will be 50% minority..... MUAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAA :evil

better close up that border quick!!!!

and what the hell are you doing in Jersey City? You need to go quickly to Idaho.... youll be safe there for at least 20 more years.....


I don't care if it's 50% minority, that doesn't phase me. Besides there are other minorities than latinos.
The whole point you missed while digging around for your "let's bash mid-america while i try to use the race card" reply is that enemies are forming alliances close to our borders.

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because he opposes iran forming relations with venzuala and posted an article on it he's a racist ...you need to be banned son ..all you do you attack others and never the issues bro .. how is this thread fuckin racist?

i need to be banned? lol..... too much for you too handle? I have answered every issue you have brought up.....


My post has to do with the other thread about the Yale lawyers, and the immigration issue, and his posts about a "new breed" of immigrants, with their flags, and their culture etc etc ... typical racist bullshit....

and then he brings closing borders into this thread about ahmadinijad and chaves...as if that has ANYTHING to do with illegal immigration....

so i let him have it. :)

:bigkiss

[lolz]

i need to be banned? lol..... too much for you too handle? I have answered every issue you have brought up.....


My post has to do with the other thread about the Yale lawyers, and the immigration issue, and his posts about a "new breed" of immigrants, with their flags, and their culture etc etc ... typical racist bullshit....

and then he brings closing borders into this thread about ahmadinijad and chaves...as if that has ANYTHING to do with illegal immigration....

so i let him have it. :)

:bigkiss

The whole border issue was brought up because ahmadjihad can now easily smuggle his agents and terrorists through the border because it's wide open.

[Defekted]

I don't care if it's 50% minority, that doesn't phase me. Besides there are other minorities than latinos.
The whole point you missed while digging around for your "let's bash mid-america while i try to use the race card" reply is that enemies are forming alliances close to our borders.

maybe you missed it so here it is again

"Its a natural alliance.... our bully foreign policy is making "the other side" stick together .. eventhough they might have zero in common (communists and islamists arent exactly bedfellows, lol) yet another wonderful consequence from out neocon foreign policy over the last 7 years."

my original post to the subject YOU brought up.....

then you decide to bring up closing the borders again.... as if chaves and ahadinijad meeting in bolivia has ANYTHING to do with our borders, with mexico and canada.... ANOTHER slight of hand reason to get people to think that WW3 is on its way unless we stop the flow of immigrants to the us

clearer now?

thanks :heythere

[Defekted]

The whole border issue was brought up because ahmadjihad can now easily smuggle his agents and terrorists through the border because it's wide open.

you think ahmadinjad is going to smuggle his revolutionary guard into america to fight us?

stop watching cartoons man.

[jameznyhc]

i need to be banned? lol..... too much for you too handle? I have answered every issue you have brought up.....


My post has to do with the other thread about the Yale lawyers, and the immigration issue, and his posts about a "new breed" of immigrants, with their flags, and their culture etc etc ... typical racist bullshit....

and then he brings closing borders into this thread about ahmadinijad and chaves...as if that has ANYTHING to do with illegal immigration....

so i let him have it. :)

:bigkiss

you made an ass out of yourself .. and again why is border control being racist? or how some in this country are offended by the lack of respect the american culture gets from new immigrant groups ??..how is that racist?? maybe people have an opinion that americanism as in the melting pot we once were & all united.. as opposed to being splintered in special interests groups and multiculturalism .. i consistantly post articles written by muslims, jews, women, christians etc..i dont judge on value of skin color or race ..but i do judge others on their behavior and what effect it has on us all .. i guess you cant grasp that .. so you fling insults, ignore half posts, cut and paste, and just insult anyone who has a deifferent opinion ..your a laughingstock ..

[jameznyhc]

you think ahmadinjad is going to smuggle his revolutionary guard into america to fight us?

stop watching cartoons man.


no but maybe he can funnel dirty bomb to his men or new "friends" ..then they can cross our non existent border .. and ignite a dirty bomb ..where?? id bet NYC

[Defekted]

you made an ass out of yourself .. and again why is border control being racist? or how some in this country are offended by the lack of respect the american culture gets from new immigrant groups ??..how is that racist?? maybe people have an opinion that americanism as in the melting pot we once were & all united.. as opposed to being splintered in special interests groups and multiculturalism .. i consistantly post articles written by muslims, jews, women, christians etc..i dont judge on value of skin color or race ..but i do judge others on their behavior and what effect it has on us all .. i guess you cant grasp that .. so you fling insults, ignore half posts, cut and paste, and just insult anyone who has a deifferent opinion ..your a laughingstock ..

lack of respect for the american culture.....

by all means, this should be good, jamez, please tell me what is the america culture? is it BBQ's on sunday, apple pie, and little league??? what are they disrespecting again? last i checked all the proimmigration rallies had tens of thousnds of american flags waving proudly in the air. Last I checked they worked double shifts in the terrible conditions for peanuts so that your lawn is landscaped, your furniture is moved in, your chicken parm is piping hot out of the oven, your hotel bed is made, and you garbage is collected..... so save the disrespecting "the american culture" ..... its bullshit, some people just cant take the fact that people that dont look like them, dont speak like them, and dont think like them are moving in to "their"neighborhoods....

sucks but deal with it :)

[jameznyhc]

lack of respect for the american culture.....

by all means, this should be good, jamez, please tell me what is the america culture? is it BBQ's on sunday, apple pie, and little league??? what are they disrespecting again? last i checked all the proimmigration rallies had tens of thousnds of american flags waving proudly in the air. Last I checked they worked double shifts in the terrible conditions for peanuts so that your lawn is landscaped, your furniture is moved in, your chicken parm is piping hot out of the oven, your hotel bed is made, and you garbage is collected..... so save the disrespecting "the american culture" ..... its bullshit, some people just cant take the fact that people that dont look like them, dont speak like them, and dont think like them are moving in to "their"neighborhoods....

sucks but deal with it :)

um we live in nyc ..who the fuck you talking to? lol...apple pie? little league? is that what you view this great countrys culture as ..damn dude go back to the pharmacy

[lolz]

lack of respect for the american culture.....

by all means, this should be good, jamez, please tell me what is the america culture? is it BBQ's on sunday, apple pie, and little league??? what are they disrespecting again? last i checked all the proimmigration rallies had tens of thousnds of american flags waving proudly in the air. Last I checked they worked double shifts in the terrible conditions for peanuts so that your lawn is landscaped, your furniture is moved in, your chicken parm is piping hot out of the oven, your hotel bed is made, and you garbage is collected..... so save the disrespecting "the american culture" ..... its bullshit, some people just cant take the fact that people that dont look like them, dont speak like them, and dont think like them are moving in to "their"neighborhoods....

sucks but deal with it :)

I think you might have been watching a Minutemen rally because whenever I see racist groups like La Raza and other illegals protesting, I see just many more Mexican flags as I do American.

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I think you might have been watching a Minutemen rally because whenever I see racist groups like La Raza and other illegals protesting, I see just many more Mexican flags as I do American.

im talking about the massive national rallies that went on during the legislation that was being passed....you know the one that was on ever channel for hours on end.... i could have sworn I saw TENS OF THOUSANDS of american flags...maybe i was tired and seeing things, oh well, my bad, never mind...it was the 40 person minute man rally lolz

[James Maxx]

You don't see a problem with one of our biggest enemies forming alliances with other enemies that are close to our border?

We make them to be enemies. Only reason our govt. hates Hugo Chaves is because he refuses to sell off his oil reserves to us and gives it out to his own citizens for a discount. He doesn't allow capitalist pig free-markets to take over the oil and jack up the price so only 10% of his country can use it.

Iran? If Israel, North Korea and USA have nukes why can't they? You think if they develop a bomb theyre gonna launch it on us or Israel? OK so what if they do? We can just wipe out their country in 1 day. Cmon we did nuclear arms treaties with Russia why not with them? Oh because he supports "terrorists". Well guess what so does Saudi Arabia, our "ally".

[jameznyhc]

im talking about the massive national rallies that went on during the legislation that was being passed....you know the one that was on ever channel for hours on end.... i could have sworn I saw TENS OF THOUSANDS of american flags...maybe i was tired and seeing things, oh well, my bad, never mind...it was the 40 person minute man rally lolz


True or false ..thousands of flags were shipped in by the organizers knowing the media coverage would be tremendous?

true or false in past rallys were the majority of flags mexican? and the reason why the public was offended was nobody saw american flags?

[Defekted]

True or false ..thousands of flags were shipped in by the organizers knowing the media coverage would be tremendous?

true or false in past rallys were the majority of flags mexican? and the reason why the public was offended was nobody saw american flags?

oooooooooooh ok now i get it, the reason they had american flags was because it was staged. I see. Thanks for the clarification.

[lolz]

We make them to be enemies. Only reason our govt. hates Hugo Chaves is because he refuses to sell off his oil reserves to us and gives it out to his own citizens for a discount. He doesn't allow capitalist pig free-markets to take over the oil and jack up the price so only 10% of his country can use it.

Iran? If Israel, North Korea and USA have nukes why can't they? You think if they develop a bomb theyre gonna launch it on us or Israel? OK so what if they do? We can just wipe out their country in 1 day. Cmon we did nuclear arms treaties with Russia why not with them? Oh because he supports "terrorists". Well guess what so does Saudi Arabia, our "ally".


"capitalist pig free-markets", what's wrong with capitalism?

I don't condone us being allies with SA, I think that is a huge mistake. The Russians weren't driven by a religion based on genocide & warfare like Iran is, huge difference, the russians as bad as they are, aren't 7th century uncivilized merauders like the mullahs Iran are. You saying "You think if they develop a bomb theyre gonna launch it on us or Israel? OK so what if they do? ", what do you mean so what if they do? Thousands of innocent people will die, if that Iranian nuke lands on your block or near your favorite club while you're standing on line you're not going be saying "oh iran just wiped out my whole family, so what".

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True or false ..thousands of flags were shipped in by the organizers knowing the media coverage would be tremendous?

true or false in past rallys were the majority of flags mexican? and the reason why the public was offended was nobody saw american flags?

100% true.

[James Maxx]

"capitalist pig free-markets", what's wrong with capitalism?

I don't condone us being allies with SA, I think that is a huge mistake. The Russians weren't driven by a religion based on genocide & warfare like Iran is, huge difference, the russians as bad as they are, aren't 7th century uncivilized merauders like the mullahs Iran are. You saying "You think if they develop a bomb theyre gonna launch it on us or Israel? OK so what if they do? ", what do you mean so what if they do? Thousands of innocent people will die, if that Iranian nuke lands on your block or near your favorite club while you're standing on line you're not going be saying "oh iran just wiped out my whole family, so what".

Well you are right I went too far with that. Iran wouldn't even have a chance to put a nuke on a launchpad before 50 cruise missiles start raining down on Tehran.