You can fool americans: Obama's Faith

[ShaE]

You can fool them pretty good.
Apparently 12% of voters polled still think he's Muslim, despite the widely publicized Wright business, then a quarter of voters polled think he was raised in a Muslim home. Brilliant, once again.

Even with all the information repeatedly published, verified, documented, re-run over and over, you have a hefty % of idiots who remain ignorant about BASIC provable facts in someone's life. Very comforting.


He is now a Christian, having been baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. But rumors about Obama's religion persist. In the new NEWSWEEK Poll (http://www.newsweek.com/id/145737), 12 percent of voters incorrectly believe he's Muslim; more than a quarter believe he was raised in a Muslim home.




http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971/output/print

[LittleBouncer]

lol go to the middle of this country .....its not to hard to fool them with anything

[ShaE]

How is anyone supposed to engage in, and follow, a substantive discussion on very complex topics if they can't even grasp the documented facts about someone's background and life?

You mean to tell me these people who think he's a muslim in disguise- oo scary- are perceptive and informed enough to follow the debates that need to be held in this country? Please. He has dark skin, his name's barack HUSSEIN, he lived abroad, and had a father who convered from Islam to Athiesm so, it must mean, HE'S MUSLIM!

The power of irrational fear and willful ignorance.

[JustLikeHeaven]

Wow that is truly SAD

[ShaE]

Wow that is truly SAD
It's like, what do you have to do with these people? His CHRISTIAN PASTOR was lambasted all over national television, to obama's detriment, and you still think he's muslim?

it's either paranoid, or stupidity, possibly both.

or maybe it's that photo he took in somalian dress, that you better believe none of these ass backwards people could grasp the difference between "terrorist turban" and somalian traditional garb. pathetic.

[chris817]

im not surprised esp since between 8 and 11 percent of Americans believed as of August 2002 that Elvis was still alive, 25 years after what was reported to be his death
This is the gene pool we are dealing with

[ShaE]

im not surprised esp since between 8 and 11 percent of Americans believed as of August 2002 that Elvis was still alive, 25 years after what was reported to be his death
This is the gene pool we are dealing with
Who was it that just commented in another thread about conspiracy theories and how they can't stand them?

I can't stand stupidity. These people either don't have televisions and can't read OR they think obama has crafted this entire charade of christianity in order to mask his true muslim self in a vast conspiracy to fool american voters.

christ.

[JustLikeHeaven]

I think these people just believe what they wanna believe. Ignorance is bliss...they are content with holding onto something that will serve to reinforce their hate. If they associate Muslims with negativity, it is in their best interests to believe that Obama is one. :yourcrazy

[ShaE]

I think these people just believe what they wanna believe. Ignorance is bliss...they are content with holding onto something that will serve to reinforce their hate. If they associate Muslims with negativity, it is in their best interests to believe that Obama is one. :yourcrazy
It reminds me of mccarthy lol
Just IMPLY, hint, even find a fragment of an association with something, and you're labeled for life, and no amount of factual evidence to the contrary can wipe it from peoples' minds.

Stupid fox news erroneously says he attended a radical muslim school in indonesia+ his middle name's hussein+his dark skin= A MUSLIM in the mind of every moron american, and there's no way you're changing it, b/c they're scared and don't really care to be told any differently.

They can't come right out and oppose him b/c he's black, but they can b/c he's muslim, so that's the route they're gonna go.

[Defekted]

Its a big country....... alot of room for idiots.

Definitely not Americas best and brightest. lol, Im almost positive not democrats either ;)

[ShaE]

Its a big country....... alot of room for idiots.

Definitely not Americas best and brightest. lol, Im almost positive not democrats either ;)
Kinda makes me question my stance on doing away with the electoral college lol

[jameznyhc]

Wow that is truly SAD

what little boucers ignorance..or the dumb fucks who still thinks he is muslim?? lol .. goes both ways huh??

[metfan85]

Kinda makes me question my stance on doing away with the electoral college lol

i think the senators should be chosen by the state legislators again :giveup

[ShaE]

what little boucers ignorance..or the dumb fucks who still thinks he is muslim?? lol .. goes both ways huh??
see the thing is jamez, there's some truth in what he's saying. there's no truth in obama being muslim.
there are parts of this country with distinct characteristics. some more religious, some more secular, some wealthier, some poorer, some blacker, latino, whiter, and i'd venture to say some areas where people are more well informed and educated, and areas that are more prejudiced. go ahead, pull up testing scores and performances around the nation and you tell me where the people are falling behind. cities, sure, rural areas? you betcha. thing is, cities tend to be more tolerant of diversity, rural areas? not so much. go ahead and poll which areas of the nation follow politics, keep informed, and stay up on the news. i guarantee you, it isn't west virginia by a longshot.

you're lying to yourself if you don't think you can follow trends of where people are most suspicious of a dark skinned man who they dont' believe to be christian.

[JustLikeHeaven]

what little boucers ignorance..or the dumb fucks who still thinks he is muslim?? lol .. goes both ways huh??

I was referring to the stupidity of ppl who still believe him to be a Muslim.

And as for LittleBouncer's comment, I think we can all take an educated guess about the kind of people who fit the bill for this type of ignorance lol.

[ShaE]

I was referring to the stupidity of ppl who still believe him to be a Muslim.

And as for LittleBouncer's comment, I think we can all take an educated guess about the kind of people who fit the bill for this type of ignorance lol.
Apparently recognizing the demographics of (some) of these people is ignorant lol

That's not to say there aren't racist or religiously prejudiced people in the urban arena, or outside the midwest or south, of course there are. But generally, a smart person is presented with facts that are verifiable about a candidate, and they will accept them.

[jameznyhc]

see the thing is jamez, there's some truth in what he's saying. there's no truth in obama being muslim.
there are parts of this country with distinct characteristics. some more religious, some more secular, some wealthier, some poorer, some blacker, latino, whiter, and i'd venture to say some areas where people are more well informed and educated, and areas that are more prejudiced. go ahead, pull up testing scores and performances around the nation and you tell me where the people are falling behind. cities, sure, rural areas? you betcha. thing is, cities tend to be more tolerant of diversity, rural areas? not so much. go ahead and poll which areas of the nation follow politics, keep informed, and stay up on the news. i guarantee you, it isn't west virginia by a longshot.

you're lying to yourself if you don't think you can follow trends of where people are most suspicious of a dark skinned man who they dont' believe to be christian.


youi mean like howard beach?? ..i dont buy people in "rural" areas are dumb or prejudice ..or city people are smarter..thats such a disgusting prejudice way of thinking ..Obama won states with 98% white populations .. there goes your argument whoops

[jameznyhc]

I was referring to the stupidity of ppl who still believe him to be a Muslim.

And as for LittleBouncer's comment, I think we can all take an educated guess about the kind of people who fit the bill for this type of ignorance lol.

No please tell me i never met one .. you obviously have or how would you know?? you wouldnt be basing your argument on Pre-judging aka prejudice .. wouldnt that make you just as ignorant as the people who believe obama is musklim?? ya see i think both are ignorant ..how about you?

[ShaE]

youi mean like howard beach?? ..i dont buy people in "rural" areas are dumb or prejudice ..or city people are smarter..thats such a disgusting prejudice way of thinking ..Obama won states with 98% white populations .. there goes your argument whoops
yes, there are def racist overtones in howard beach. but you'd definitely find more in the south as a whole than the north.

i didn't say rural is stupid, city is smarter, the city is full of failing schools too, but you can measure and calculate the areas of the country that do poorly. the areas that send kids to college, and ones that have their kids drop out of high school en masse. you can measure these things, saying that doing so makes you ignorant is silly.

what argument? i'm well aware obama did well in white populations. my argument is not about OBAMA, it's about there being nothing wrong with identifying certain portions of the nation and the beliefs/attributes/ and statistics that apply to them.

you called it ignorance, my argument is that it's not.

[ShaE]

No please tell me i never met one .. you obviously have or how would you know?? you wouldnt be basing your argument on Pre-judging aka prejudice .. wouldnt that make you just as ignorant as the people who believe obama is musklim?? ya see i think both are ignorant ..how about you?
The kind of people she said, how do you know she didn't mean STUPID people?

How do you know she was referring to where they lived and not what they are? Dumb.

Yes you are dumb, if you believe he's muslim at this point,d espite evidence produced to the contrary on a grand scale.

[ShaE]

if you're so against prejudice jamez, why is it you tack the liberal label on somebody so freely? remember toonz, kid called you a douche and you determined from that he was a liberal.

isn't that judging falsely and prematurely?

[ShaE]

.. wouldnt that make you just as ignorant as the people who believe obama is musklim?? ya see i think both are ignorant ..how about you?
no, because they are speaking about ONE PERSON, who has proven he is not what they believe him to be, yet they ignore the evidence and continue believing as they please.
you can 100% prove these peoples' judgment about obama is wrong, and they have, but they IGNORE definitive evidence.

if you provided me with IQ reports of every single person in the midwest and each and every one of them was certified above average intelligence, and i ignored that, and continued to call them stupid despite the facts, THEN i'd be as ignorant as these people who still think he's muslim.

[LittleBouncer]

Wow that is truly SAD

the bible belt is full of people that will believe anything they are told lol

[LittleBouncer]

if you're so against prejudice jamez, why is it you tack the liberal label on somebody so freely? remember toonz, kid called you a douche and you determined from that he was a liberal.

isn't that judging falsely and prematurely?

Toonz was dead on

[JustLikeHeaven]

No please tell me i never met one .. you obviously have or how would you know?? you wouldnt be basing your argument on Pre-judging aka prejudice .. wouldnt that make you just as ignorant as the people who believe obama is musklim?? ya see i think both are ignorant ..how about you?

U never met one? LOL...ppl who have posted in this very forum have believed that Obama is a Muslim and that they won't vote for him because of that.

And no it does not make me ignorant - Being able to make an assessment about the kind of people who follow a certain trend or train of thought doesn't make one IGNORANT...it's just making an observation.

[ShaE]

the bible belt is full of people that will believe anything they are told lol
One could make an argument that certain faiths foster the suspension of critical thought, questioning, and scientific analysis lol

[LittleBouncer]

One could make an argument that certain faiths foster the suspension of critical thought, questioning, and scientific analysis lol

yes the bible is based on 100 percent fact you didnt know that lol

[jameznyhc]

no, because they are speaking about ONE PERSON, who has proven he is not what they believe him to be, yet they ignore the evidence and continue believing as they please.
you can 100% prove these peoples' judgment about obama is wrong, and they have, but they IGNORE definitive evidence.

if you provided me with IQ reports of every single person in the midwest and each and every one of them was certified above average intelligence, and i ignored that, and continued to call them stupid despite the facts, THEN i'd be as ignorant as these people who still think he's muslim.

Can you show me evidence they are not above average intelligence..or are you prejudging?? and assuming?? thats very ignorant and racist thinking .. again obama won in heartland states with no black population so your making yourself look just as dumb as people who still think barrys a muslim.. now we know his dad was..we know he went to a madarassa.. and we know he converted to christianity .. but i dont think hillary helped by sending out all those emails do you?? she not a dumb hick

[jameznyhc]

One could make an argument that certain faiths foster the suspension of critical thought, questioning, and scientific analysis lol

yeah perfect example was obamas church ..very racist ..very ignorant .. oh shit but it was in an urban area how that happen lol

[jameznyhc]

U never met one? LOL...ppl who have posted in this very forum have believed that Obama is a Muslim and that they won't vote for him because of that.

And no it does not make me ignorant - Being able to make an assessment about the kind of people who follow a certain trend or train of thought doesn't make one IGNORANT...it's just making an observation.

well who are these people?? .. i dont know any .. you must so please describe them for me ..

[metfan85]

the bible belt is full of people that will believe anything they are told lol

yeah only the sheep walking through city streets with their phones attached to their heads not a clue of the world outside of their office and the heroine needle in their arm. They are the only people who are free and independent thinking :rolleyes:

[jameznyhc]

Toonz was dead on

bro who are you? where did you come from?? been posting here for 5 years take a walk son ... you and your prejudice views .. no wonder why you hate so much lol .. funny thing is i got zero hate for you .. actually your sad case brother..now go stalk some other male and dont bother me for a pic ya fruitcake

[ShaE]

Can you show me evidence they are not above average intelligence..or are you prejudging??

Not possible for an entire section of the country to only be comprised of above average intelligence indviduals. Statistically not possible, so i'm not prejudging anything, I'm stating that would never be the case, same as how every single person on the East Coast isn't a genius. Can't happen.

My point to you was, in order to be as ignorant as these people, I would have to OUTRIGHT DEFY factual, provable, evidence before my very eyes. Whatever example you want to use, that's still what they're doing. So to be as bad, I'd have to see proof postive in front of me that something is XYZ and then flatly disbelieve it's XYZ.

get it?

[ShaE]

yeah only the sheep walking through city streets with their phones attached to their heads not a clue of the world outside of their office and the heroine needle in their arm. They are the only people who are free and independent thinking :rolleyes:

Wait, what? You just lumped narrow minded corporate drone workaholics in with heroin addicts? I dont' know about that.

And nobody said they are the ONLY independent thinkers, but they do tend to be a bit more critical, skeptical, and questioning than creationists and bible thumpers.

Granted both of them aren't the best quality overall person, but I'd rather somebody who is skeptical, questions, and is maybe a bit dismal than one who blindly follows b/c an ancient book gives him instructions for life.

Sheep are everyone, sheep are just people who are easily led, and don't think for themselves. Pretty hard to make it in business if you're one of these.

[jameznyhc]

Wait, what? You just lumped narrow minded corporate drone workaholics in with heroin addicts? I dont' know about that.

And nobody said they are the ONLY independent thinkers, but they do tend to be a bit more critical, skeptical, and questioning than creationists and bible thumpers.

Granted both of them aren't the best quality overall person, but I'd rather somebody who is skeptical, questions, and is maybe a bit dismal than one who blindly follows b/c an ancient book gives him instructions for life.

Sheep are everyone, sheep are just people who are easily led, and don't think for themselves. Pretty hard to make it in business if you're one of these.

ok can you show me proof the 12% who think barry is muslim was presented with evidence that he converted and does not practice his father religion ..please show me

[ShaE]

yeah perfect example was obamas church ..very racist ..very ignorant .. oh shit but it was in an urban area how that happen lol
where did i say there are no stupid, and/or racist, and/or uneducated people in cities? lol

you take a misconception and run w/ it b/c you can't focus on what i'm actually saying. which is that it's ok to identify certain groups of people based on certain statistics that apply. campaigns are run that way man, it's a science.

[JustLikeHeaven]

ok can you show me proof the 12% who think barry is muslim was presented with evidence that he converted and does not practice his father religion ..please show me

Regardless of whether or not they were presented with evidence has nothing to do with calling them ignorant. An ignorant person believes what they are told or what they hear and doesn't bother to question or educate themselves about it. That's THEIR job - if they care enough they will take it upon themselves to find out who he is and what he's truly about.

Not to mention, u would have to be living under a rock to have not heard about the Rev Wright scandal...how does a Muslim guy have a Christian pastor?! That's just being totally idiotic!

[ShaE]

ok can you show me proof the 12% who think barry is muslim was presented with evidence that he converted and does not practice his father religion ..please show me

he doesn't need to prove he converted, he never was muslim, nor was he baptized in any other faith which would require a conversion.

his father's religion is NO RELIGION he's an athiest converted from islam

his father was in his life for 2 years, i don't think that qualifies a religious influence that needs to be denounced


they have their proof, he's baptized christian, he's never been baptized anything else. he attended a christian church and his pastor and church were verified for all to see on tv, not to mention his presence at said church on sundays could easily be verified w/ other churchgoers. he got married in a christian church, baptized his kids there..

what other proof would any logical person need that he is indeed a christian as he says he is?

[ShaE]

Regardless of whether or not they were presented with evidence has nothing to do with calling them ignorant. An ignorant person believes what they are told or what they hear and doesn't bother to question or educate themselves about it. That's THEIR job - if they care enough they will take it upon themselves to find out who he is and what he's truly about.

Not to mention, u would have to be living under a rock to have not heard about the Rev Wright scandal...how does a Muslim guy have a Christian pastor?! That's just being totally idiotic!
His Baptismal record, his marriage record, his children's baptism record, his attendance at Trinity, Wright admitting to being his pastor at a CHRISTIAN church which he attended for years.

all seem like proof to me that was definitely presented and there for any american to see.

[jameznyhc]

he doesn't need to prove he converted, he never was muslim, nor was he baptized in any other faith which would require a conversion.

his father's religion is NO RELIGION he's an athiest converted from islam

his father was in his life for 2 years, i don't think that qualifies a religious influence that needs to be denounced


they have their proof, he's baptized christian, he's never been baptized anything else. he attended a christian church and his pastor and church were verified for all to see on tv, not to mention his presence at said church on sundays could easily be verified w/ other churchgoers. he got married in a christian church, baptized his kids there..

what other proof would any logical person need that he is indeed a christian as he says he is?

but he did attend a madrassa ..maybe not a "militant" one .. and his father was muslim ..

[ShaE]

but he did attend a madrassa ..maybe not a "militant" one .. and his father was muslim ..
No he didn't attend a madrassa. see, even you're still wrong. And I said, his father IS an athiest convered FROM a muslim. Was is past tense jamez, and considering obama's father played no role in his life, I don't see how the nature of his faith then or now matters in the slightest.

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<!--endclickprintinclude--><!--startclickprintinclude--><SCRIPT language=JavaScript type=text/javascript>var clickExpire = "-1";</SCRIPT><!---->JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.


Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam.
Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/world/2007/01/22/vause.obama.school.cnn','2007/02/05');) http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/1.5/main/icon_video.gif (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/world/2007/01/22/vause.obama.school.cnn','2007/02/05');))

[ShaE]

Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes.
"I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the "Situation Room" Monday. "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."
Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."
"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."

wow, radical muslims dressed in western clothes! omg what a madrassa. christ jamez. a madrassa is A RADICAL muslim school, radical being the keyword.

[JustLikeHeaven]

but he did attend a madrassa ..maybe not a "militant" one .. and his father was muslim ..

Wow u still believe it, too! LOl

[ShaE]

Wow u still believe it, too! LOl
And jamez isn't even midwestern lol

Maybe cnn is lying, maybe the reporter that physically went to the school and took video IS LYING and the video's doctored? The very definition of madrassa is that it's radical and teaches fundamental islam. THIS SCHOOL DID NOT, get over it, it's not a madrassa.

I don't think fundamental radical muslims are int he habit of educating little buddhist kids in uniforms lol

[ShaE]

And I want to emphasize how stupid it is to even bring up his father's faith or lack thereof. His father left when he was TWO YEARS OLD, what difference would it make what faith his dad was? you think a kid is picking up religious cues at 2???????

As it happens, he was muslim and converted to athiesm, but like i said, his father was absent from his life so how the hell is his faith relevant?

[jameznyhc]

And I want to emphasize how stupid it is to even bring up his father's faith or lack thereof. His father left when he was TWO YEARS OLD, what difference would it make what faith his dad was? you think a kid is picking up religious cues at 2???????

As it happens, he was muslim and converted to athiesm, but like i said, his father was absent from his life so how the hell is his faith relevant?


:LOL:LOL
Lol you 2 his biggest supporters are that stupid?? hahah he did attend a madrassa .. what was false about insights piece was they taught the most militant fundamentalist FORM of islam .. Not all madrassas are radical you fools ..my god your as bad as midwesterners you claim are so dumb

[jameznyhc]

And I want to emphasize how stupid it is to even bring up his father's faith or lack thereof. His father left when he was TWO YEARS OLD, what difference would it make what faith his dad was? you think a kid is picking up religious cues at 2???????

As it happens, he was muslim and converted to athiesm, but like i said, his father was absent from his life so how the hell is his faith relevant?

..im just showing you those 12% are probally dumb ass american idol watchers who dont follow politics.. If you didnt and you heard his name its a muslim name ..ok with hillary sending those emails it was brought back into the news 2 - 3 times during primaries.. the media feeds into it .. but hey only 50% of the country votes what does that tell ya?

[ShaE]

:LOL:LOL
Lol you 2 his biggest supporters are that stupid?? hahah he did attend a madrassa .. what was false about insights piece was they taught the most militant fundamentalist FORM of islam .. Not all madrassas are radical you fools ..my god your as bad as midwesterners you claim are so dumb
why jamez is talking out his ass:

1) i didnt claim all midwesterners were dumb
2) the implication when it was reported he attended a madrassa was that he attended a radical muslim school. he did not. his school consisted of MIXED FAITHS, and there was nothing radical about it.
get over it.

i love how you call me dumb, yet in all your years posting here that you're/your business still hasn't registered lol


and you didn't answer my question. wtf relevance is the faith of his father who LEFT HIM AT 2?

[ShaE]

and I'd also like to know when Saidah and i purported to be his biggest supporters? when have i ever claimed that or compared myself in that way?

you just pull things out your ass jamez.

[ShaE]

I was watching the daily show the other nite, and they put together all the clips of newscasters who have mistakenly said OSAMA when they meant OBAMA or vice versa. It's funny, but it's not, when you put it in context w/ the fact that we have so many tools in this country who refuse to believe he isn't a taliban fighter masquerading in a business suit.

way to encourage the retards people.

[jameznyhc]

why jamez is talking out his ass:

1) i didnt claim all midwesterners were dumb
2) the implication when it was reported he attended a madrassa was that he attended a radical muslim school. he did not. his school consisted of MIXED FAITHS, and there was nothing radical about it.
get over it.

i love how you call me dumb, yet in all your years posting here that you're/your business still hasn't registered lol


and you didn't answer my question. wtf relevance is the faith of his father who LEFT HIM AT 2?

theres zero relevance lol i have no question in my mind he a committed christian ...Secondly you just backed up what i said he attended a non radical non militant madrassa.. not all madrassas are hateful .. But i can see why some dumb moron could be confused cause they watch jerry springer and dont follow politics..im not even defending the 12% ..but there is reason for an idiot to be confused ..lol

[ShaE]

theres zero relevance lol i have no question in my mind he a committed christian ...Secondly you just backed up what i said he attended a non radical non militant madrassa.. not all madrassas are hateful .. But i can see why some dumb moron could be confused cause they watch jerry springer and dont follow politics..im not even defending the 12% ..but there is reason for an idiot to be confused ..lol
I looked up madrassa and 5/6 definitions classified it as a radical school that teaches fundamental islam, the other the most timid of the definitions classified it as a MUSLIM school that often involves worship in a mosque and religious instruction.

i think it was made perfectly clear that he did not receive instruction in islam, did not worship in a mosque, was surrounded by people and children of various religious backgrounds, and there was no radical element to any of it.

so you're insisting he attended a madrassa on the SLIM loophole that it's defined as a "muslim school" not a radical muslim school?

reach reach reach.

[jameznyhc]

I looked up madrassa and 5/6 definitions classified it as a radical school that teaches fundamental islam, the other the most timid of the definitions classified it as a MUSLIM school that often involves worship in a mosque and religious instruction.

i think it was made perfectly clear that he did not receive instruction in islam, did not worship in a mosque, was surrounded by people and children of various religious backgrounds, and there was no radical element to any of it.

so you're insisting he attended a madrassa on the SLIM loophole that it's defined as a "muslim school" not a radical muslim school?

reach reach reach.

no what im saying is fact .. theres radical and moderate madrassas .. they accussed him of going to a "saudi type" that promoted wahhabism (i believe this is the most radical fundamenatlist form correct?) ..thats why Insight got blasted

[John Kennedy]

There are tons of people who live in big pockets of NYC who believe this also.. this definitely isn't a rural problem. Obama is a newbie, and the first non-white presidential nominee ever.. this is just something that he's gonna have to break through. No sense in complaining, just move forward.

[ShaE]

There are tons of people who live in big pockets of NYC who believe this also.. this definitely isn't a rural problem. Obama is a newbie, and the first non-white presidential nominee ever.. this is just something that he's gonna have to break through. No sense in complaining, just move forward.
No, it's not a rural problem, it's a dumb problem and those tend to multiply and continue, and of course they're present to some extent everywhere.

It's the mindset that completely alarms me, not the damage it may do to his candidacy.

[Studz]

I just cant wait for the day Obama wins and Jamez has to follow through with the bet he had with Defected.

[jameznyhc]

I just cant wait for the day Obama wins and Jamez has to follow through with the bet he had with Defected.

hey dudz ..your back!!

[Studz]

Been busy with the termoil in the market havent had time to really come on here. Market finally settled down so i have a minute or two. if ur gone there would be no one to be posting all those neo con rightwing articles.

[ShaE]

I just cant wait for the day Obama wins and Jamez has to follow through with the bet he had with Defected.
jamez already staged his departure, and then came back, madder than ever, now he's calmed down a bit and focused the bulk of his animosity toward "barry" lol

[Defekted]

but he did attend a madrassa ..maybe not a "militant" one .. and his father was muslim ..

LIAR!!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

"School not a madrassa"

[Defekted]

no what im saying is fact .. theres radical and moderate madrassas .. they accussed him of going to a "saudi type" that promoted wahhabism (i believe this is the most radical fundamenatlist form correct?) ..thats why Insight got blasted

a madrassa is a religious school which could or could not be fanatical......

it wasnt even a religious school.....so it wasnt a madrassa.

[JustLikeHeaven]

and I'd also like to know when Saidah and i purported to be his biggest supporters? when have i ever claimed that or compared myself in that way?

you just pull things out your ass jamez.

LOL
And Jamez - yet again Wow u believe it, too

U said u never met someone who fits that bill...Yet u buy into the BS yourself!

I know I read somewhere that they interviewed one of the heads of the school and HE said that it is NOT a religious school...Lemme try to find the article..

[JustLikeHeaven]

NM Nick just posted it lol
So tell me Jamez u won't take THAT guy's word for it??? The headmaster of the school?!

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.

Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam.

Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school )

Insight attributed the information in its article to an unnamed source, who said it was discovered by "researchers connected to Senator Clinton." A spokesman for Clinton, who is also weighing a White House bid, denied that the campaign was the source of the Obama claim.

He called the story "an obvious right-wing hit job."

Insight stood by its story in a response posted on its Web site Monday afternoon.

The Insight article was cited several times Friday on Fox News and was also referenced by the New York Post, The Glenn Beck program on CNN Headline News and a number of political blogs. (Watch how the Obama "gossip" spread )

School not a madrassa
But reporting by CNN in Jakarta, Indonesia and Washington, D.C., shows the allegations that Obama attended a madrassa to be false. CNN dispatched Senior International Correspondent John Vause to Jakarta to investigate.

He visited the Basuki school, which Obama attended from 1969 to 1971.

"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment."

Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes.

"I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the "Situation Room" Monday. "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."

Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."

"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."

The Obama aide described Fox News' broadcasting of the Insight story "appallingly irresponsible."

Fox News executive Bill Shine told CNN "Reliable Sources" anchor Howard Kurtz that some of the network's hosts were simply expressing their opinions and repeatedly cited Insight as the source of the allegations.

Obama has noted in his two books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school and another two years in a Catholic school while living in Indonesia from age 6 to 10.

[JustLikeHeaven]

:LOL:LOL
Lol you 2 his biggest supporters are that stupid?? hahah he did attend a madrassa .. what was false about insights piece was they taught the most militant fundamentalist FORM of islam .. Not all madrassas are radical you fools ..my god your as bad as midwesterners you claim are so dumb

And I know this. Never said they are. But regardless he didn't attend a RELIGIOUS SCHOOL...FOOL.

[ShaE]

Ok, so we've established the following:
Madrassas aren't all radical ( I did not know this, thank you everyone lol)
Obama's school, as quoted by the headmaster, is a public school, not a religious one
Public schools that are not religious do not qualify as madrassas

the end result is the same. Obama didn't attend a madrassa, jamez and his 12% buddies still think he did.

shocking.

[JustLikeHeaven]

Ok, so we've established the following:
Madrassas aren't all radical ( I did not know this, thank you everyone lol)
Obama's school, as quoted by the headmaster, is a public school, not a religious one
Public schools that are not religious do not qualify as madrassas

the end result is the same. Obama didn't attend a madrassa, jamez and his 12% buddies still think he did.

shocking.

Jamez u are now part of a very lamentable statistic...congratulations!!! :lostit

[metfan85]

Wait, what? You just lumped narrow minded corporate drone workaholics in with heroin addicts? I dont' know about that.

And nobody said they are the ONLY independent thinkers, but they do tend to be a bit more critical, skeptical, and questioning than creationists and bible thumpers.

Granted both of them aren't the best quality overall person, but I'd rather somebody who is skeptical, questions, and is maybe a bit dismal than one who blindly follows b/c an ancient book gives him instructions for life.

Sheep are everyone, sheep are just people who are easily led, and don't think for themselves. Pretty hard to make it in business if you're one of these.

im making generalizations just like everyone else is.

[ShaE]

im making generalizations just like everyone else is.
let me rephrase, your generalization didn't make sense. generalizations can be very on point if they're based on reliable statistical information, or they can be based on prejudice nonsense not rooted in anything factual.

[JustLikeHeaven]

How can a heroin addict possibly be a workaholic lol? They don't have the capacity to be that productive!

[Benny B]

How can a heroin addict possibly be a workaholic lol? They don't have the capacity to be that productive!

welll a tweeker can definately be a workaholic.. lmao

[ShaE]

i dont really see opiates being very conducive to work production, but judging by the massive population on adderrall, amphetamines are a whole other story lol

[JustLikeHeaven]

welll a tweeker can definately be a workaholic.. lmao

LOL that's prob a diff story. But not a dope addict!

[JustLikeHeaven]

i dont really see opiates being very conducive to work production, but judging by the massive population on adderrall, amphetamines are a whole other story lol

That would've been a better example LOL

[jameznyhc]

NM Nick just posted it lol
So tell me Jamez u won't take THAT guy's word for it??? The headmaster of the school?!

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.

Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam.

Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school )

Insight attributed the information in its article to an unnamed source, who said it was discovered by "researchers connected to Senator Clinton." A spokesman for Clinton, who is also weighing a White House bid, denied that the campaign was the source of the Obama claim.

He called the story "an obvious right-wing hit job."

Insight stood by its story in a response posted on its Web site Monday afternoon.

The Insight article was cited several times Friday on Fox News and was also referenced by the New York Post, The Glenn Beck program on CNN Headline News and a number of political blogs. (Watch how the Obama "gossip" spread )

School not a madrassa
But reporting by CNN in Jakarta, Indonesia and Washington, D.C., shows the allegations that Obama attended a madrassa to be false. CNN dispatched Senior International Correspondent John Vause to Jakarta to investigate.

He visited the Basuki school, which Obama attended from 1969 to 1971.

"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment."

Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes.

"I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the "Situation Room" Monday. "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."

Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."

"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."

The Obama aide described Fox News' broadcasting of the Insight story "appallingly irresponsible."

Fox News executive Bill Shine told CNN "Reliable Sources" anchor Howard Kurtz that some of the network's hosts were simply expressing their opinions and repeatedly cited Insight as the source of the allegations.

Obama has noted in his two books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school and another two years in a Catholic school while living in Indonesia from age 6 to 10.


:LOL:LOL.. Obama himself said he went to a MUSLIM school ... A Madrassa can be public ..it can be inclusive .. it doesnt have to be radfical

Interfaith studies

In late 1970, Obama's family moved to another neighborhood, and Obama enrolled in Public Elementary School Menteng No. 1, the school depicted by several news outlets as an Islamic madrassa, or boarding school. The school, founded in 1934 as a Dutch school, once catered only to Dutch children and a few elite Indonesians. In 1962 the Dutch handed the school over to the Indonesian government. At the time, the predominantly Muslim public school was considered one of the best in Jakarta.

On a recent visit, a magician performed for the students. The girls wore uniforms of knee-length skirts and no head scarves. Boys and girls shoved each other on the playground. Weekly religious classes are required for all students, whether Muslims, Christians or Hindus, under the government curriculum. A new shiny mosque is in the corner of the courtyard.

"The Muslims learn about Islam, prayer and religious activity," said Hardi Priyono, the vice principal for curriculum. "And for the Christians, during the religious class, they also have a special room teaching Christianity. It's always been like that. We are a public school. We have always been a public school."

When Obama attended 4th grade in 1971, Muslim children spent two hours a week studying Islam, and Christian children spent those two hours learning about the Christian religion.

At holidays, the school made a practice of teaching students about different religions. Students from all religions celebrated Christmas with a Christmas tree and carols. They celebrated the Islamic holiday of Eid al-Adha by handing out a sacrificed goat to the neighborhood's needy.

Photographs from the time show teachers in sleeveless dresses. The only woman who wore a head scarf was the Islamic religion teacher.
"I was really trendy, for example, no sleeves, and miniskirts," recalled Tine Hahiyari, 78, a Protestant who was the school's headmaster from 1972 to 1989. "When I taught sports, I wore shorts."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070325obama-islam-story,0,7180545.story

[jameznyhc]

shae glad ya learned something today ...lol ...always glad to educate you all

[ShaE]

why did you fail to highlight this portion. if they're teaching CHRISTIANITY TOO they're not a muslim school jamez. "we ARE A PUBLIC SCHOOL". what part of that is unclear to you?

"The Muslims learn about Islam, prayer and religious activity," said Hardi Priyono, the vice principal for curriculum. "And for the Christians, during the religious class, they also have a special room teaching Christianity. It's always been like that. We are a public school. We have always been a public school."

[JustLikeHeaven]

OMG!!!!!!!

I love how u CONVENIENTLY highlighted anything in the article that mentions Islam and failed to acknowledge the numerous times they mention that the school teaches Christianity and other religions as well. LMAO.

[JustLikeHeaven]

:LOL:LOL.. Obama himself said he went to a MUSLIM school ... A Madrassa can be public ..it can be inclusive .. it doesnt have to be radfical

Interfaith studies

In late 1970, Obama's family moved to another neighborhood, and Obama enrolled in Public Elementary School Menteng No. 1, the school depicted by several news outlets as an Islamic madrassa, or boarding school. The school, founded in 1934 as a Dutch school, once catered only to Dutch children and a few elite Indonesians. In 1962 the Dutch handed the school over to the Indonesian government. At the time, the predominantly Muslim public school was considered one of the best in Jakarta.

On a recent visit, a magician performed for the students. The girls wore uniforms of knee-length skirts and no head scarves. Boys and girls shoved each other on the playground. Weekly religious classes are required for all students, whether Muslims, Christians or Hindus, under the government curriculum. A new shiny mosque is in the corner of the courtyard.

"The Muslims learn about Islam, prayer and religious activity," said Hardi Priyono, the vice principal for curriculum. "And for the Christians, during the religious class, they also have a special room teaching Christianity. It's always been like that. We are a public school. We have always been a public school."

When Obama attended 4th grade in 1971, Muslim children spent two hours a week studying Islam, and Christian children spent those two hours learning about the Christian religion.

At holidays, the school made a practice of teaching students about different religions. Students from all religions celebrated Christmas with a Christmas tree and carols. They celebrated the Islamic holiday of Eid al-Adha by handing out a sacrificed goat to the neighborhood's needy.

Photographs from the time show teachers in sleeveless dresses. The only woman who wore a head scarf was the Islamic religion teacher.
"I was really trendy, for example, no sleeves, and miniskirts," recalled Tine Hahiyari, 78, a Protestant who was the school's headmaster from 1972 to 1989. "When I taught sports, I wore shorts."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070325obama-islam-story,0,7180545.story

Furthermore, a madrassa is a RELIGIOUS SCHOOL. That focuses on ONLY ISLAM. And a madrassa would most DEF teach Arabic - this was NOT A MADRASSA.

Why did u even paste this article to support what you're saying? An article that clearly shows that the school teaches Christianity as well as other religions and celebrates Christian holidays as well.

[jameznyhc]

why did you fail to highlight this portion. if they're teaching CHRISTIANITY TOO they're not a muslim school jamez. "we ARE A PUBLIC SCHOOL". what part of that is unclear to you?

"The Muslims learn about Islam, prayer and religious activity," said Hardi Priyono, the vice principal for curriculum. "And for the Christians, during the religious class, they also have a special room teaching Christianity. It's always been like that. We are a public school. We have always been a public school."

i didnt say it was a muslim school Obama himself stated that he attended one for 2 years lol.. then he said he attended a "christian school" for 2 years .. .. i said it was a madrassa that teaches islam and has a mosque in its courtyard.. and when barry went there he wasnt taught islam ..not that thats bad cause they werent radical ..they even offered courses to christian minority

[jameznyhc]

Furthermore, a madrassa is a RELIGIOUS SCHOOL. That focuses on ONLY ISLAM. And a madrassa would most DEF teach Arabic - this was NOT A MADRASSA.

Why did u even paste this article to support what you're saying? An article that clearly shows that the school teaches Christianity as well as other religions and celebrates Christian holidays as well.

and here in america we teach about christmas and ramadan as well ..doesnt mean our schools are religous..

[jameznyhc]

Furthermore, a madrassa is a RELIGIOUS SCHOOL. That focuses on ONLY ISLAM. And a madrassa would most DEF teach Arabic - this was NOT A MADRASSA.

Why did u even paste this article to support what you're saying? An article that clearly shows that the school teaches Christianity as well as other religions and celebrates Christian holidays as well.

link??? .. also why did barry say he attended a MUSLIM school for 2 years???

[JustLikeHeaven]

link??? .. also why did barry say he attended a MUSLIM school for 2 years???

What are u asking for a link to?? Defekted already posted a link to the article - where the headmaster of the school himself said that it is NOT a religious school. I even posted the article for u again and highlighted that part in case u missed it the first time around.

But apparently, u still didn't pay attention. :disappoin

[darius]

newsflash . . . all of us attended a madrassa, unless any of you were home-schooled

madrassa -- literal translation "SCHOOL" . . . doesn't matter where the fuck it is . . . it just language translation

if i were a frenchie . . . i'd have attended "ecole" or "lycee" . . . if i spoke spanish, it would be called "escuela". if you speak ordu, or arabic, or farsi, it's pronounced madresseh or madrassa (as we translate their vocabulary phonetically since they operate on a completely different alphabet, but i'll bet some dumbasses here don't even know that much).

the current connotation of "madrassa" as it's tossed around our media outlets is just a bullshit fear-mongering term to refer to a school that is "over there", "in that part of the world", with "those (questionable) people" and anyone who has bought into that needs to go back to madrassa, or school, or l'ecole to get that dunce cap removed . . . sometimes i'm truly ashamed of just how ignorant my fellow Americans can be.

[ShaE]

. . sometimes i'm truly ashamed of just how ignorant my fellow Americans can be.
don't be ashamed of me b/c I thought it was a radical muslim school. we can't know everything lol

[LittleBouncer]

bro who are you? where did you come from?? been posting here for 5 years take a walk son ... you and your prejudice views .. no wonder why you hate so much lol .. funny thing is i got zero hate for you .. actually your sad case brother..now go stalk some other male and dont bother me for a pic ya fruitcake

i just want to see what you look like so i can urinate on u

[JustLikeHeaven]

newsflash . . . all of us attended a madrassa, unless any of you were home-schooled

madrassa -- literal translation "SCHOOL" . . . doesn't matter where the fuck it is . . . it just language translation

if i were a frenchie . . . i'd have attended "ecole" or "lycee" . . . if i spoke spanish, it would be called "escuela". if you speak ordu, or arabic, or farsi, it's pronounced madresseh or madrassa (as we translate their vocabulary phonetically since they operate on a completely different alphabet, but i'll bet some dumbasses here don't even know that much).

the current connotation of "madrassa" as it's tossed around our media outlets is just a bullshit fear-mongering term to refer to a school that is "over there", "in that part of the world", with "those (questionable) people" and anyone who has bought into that needs to go back to madrassa, or school, or l'ecole to get that dunce cap removed . . . sometimes i'm truly ashamed of just how ignorant my fellow Americans can be.

Yes - you're right but I say madrassa is a religious school bc in Islamic countries, if u call it a "madrassa" that tends to refer to a school where Islam is taught, and Arabic is taught, making it what we would consider a "religious" school.

Anyway the point is that when Fox reported on this story they were clearly trying to associate the school w/being some kind of radical/fundamentalist institution which breeds hate:

Fox & Friends host Steve Doocy pointed out that madrassas are “financed by Saudis” and “teach this Wahhabism which pretty much hates us,” then declared, “The big question is: was that on the curriculum back then?”

THIS is how they portrayed a "madrassa."

[ShaE]

i just want to see what you look like so i can urinate on u
now that's just outta line, cmon , let's keep it clean

[jameznyhc]

don't be ashamed of me b/c I thought it was a radical muslim school. we can't know everything lol

why your no different than those who think obamas muslim .. why would you think ALL madrassas are hate filled fantacal breeding grounds??

[LittleBouncer]

now that's just outta line, cmon , let's keep it clean

someone calls me a fruitcake i urinate on them....simple math

[jameznyhc]

Yes - you're right but I say madrassa is a religious school bc in Islamic countries, if u call it a "madrassa" that tends to refer to a school where Islam is taught, and Arabic is taught, making it what we would consider a "religious" school.

Anyway the point is that when Fox reported on this story they were clearly trying to associate the school w/being some kind of radical/fundamentalist institution which breeds hate:

Fox & Friends host Steve Doocy pointed out that madrassas are “financed by Saudis” and “teach this Wahhabism which pretty much hates us,” then declared, “The big question is: was that on the curriculum back then?”

THIS is how they portrayed a "madrassa."

Alot of Madrassas in saudi arabia unfortunatly teach wahhabism... but thats SA ..not indonesia ..huge difference..this is why insight got blasted ..sayuing it was "radical"

[jameznyhc]

someone calls me a fruitcake i urinate on them....simple math

guy hounds me for a pic-- gay stalker aka fruitcake .. now get off my dick :booted

[jameznyhc]

Yes - you're right but I say madrassa is a religious school bc in Islamic countries, if u call it a "madrassa" that tends to refer to a school where Islam is taught, and Arabic is taught, making it what we would consider a "religious" school.

Anyway the point is that when Fox reported on this story they were clearly trying to associate the school w/being some kind of radical/fundamentalist institution which breeds hate:

Fox & Friends host Steve Doocy pointed out that madrassas are “financed by Saudis” and “teach this Wahhabism which pretty much hates us,” then declared, “The big question is: was that on the curriculum back then?”

THIS is how they portrayed a "madrassa."

wow your not bright ..Fox was reporting on the Insight piece ..

[LittleBouncer]

guy hounds me for a pic-- gay stalker aka fruitcake .. now get off my dick :booted

im just amazed that you can really believe half the shit you write....or if your just sitting at your computer instigating this shit for fun

[JustLikeHeaven]

wow your not bright ..Fox was reporting on the Insight piece ..

Do u read? Isn't that what I said??


Anyway the point is that when Fox reported on this story they were clearly trying to associate the school w/being some kind of radical/fundamentalist institution which breeds hate

[jameznyhc]

Do u read? Isn't that what I said??

you were implying fox was the source .. not insight magazine

[JustLikeHeaven]

you were implying fox was the source .. not insight magazine

what? LOL!!!!!!!!!

I clearly said REPORTED ON THIS STORY
did I say BROKE THIS STORY

U are really on a roll today...

[ShaE]

someone calls me a fruitcake i urinate on them....simple math
I was never good at math lol

[jameznyhc]

im just amazed that you can really believe half the shit you write....or if your just sitting at your computer instigating this shit for fun

Instigate?? ..i dont know you lol .. but your allways instigating shit with me.. i dont know why i even concern you ..if you got a prob with my posts offer an intelligent reply ..again i never get personal ..its all politics ..and fyi no i dont go running around pacha debating bush's policys lol .. time and place for everything kid

[jameznyhc]

what? LOL!!!!!!!!!

I clearly said REPORTED ON THIS STORY
did I say BROKE THIS STORY

U are really on a roll today...

whats a madrassa?? come on one more time ..lmao

[ShaE]

Do u read? Isn't that what I said??
you can't expect someone who doesn't concern themselves w/ the proper spelling and use of words to be interested in semantics lol

reported on the story, broke the story, same thing, you know? lol

[ShaE]

Instigate?? ..i dont know you lol .. but your allways instigating shit with me.. i dont know why i even concern you ..if you got a prob with my posts offer an intelligent reply ..again i never get personal ..its all politics ..and fyi no i dont go running around pacha debating bush's policys lol .. time and place for everything kid
actually you have gotten personal, in response to others getting personal with you correct?

don't you dare say "i never get personal", never is the killer here. Usually would've worked just fine.

again, poor choice of words.

[JustLikeHeaven]

you can't expect someone who doesn't concern themselves w/ the proper spelling and use of words to be interested in semantics lol

reported on the story, broke the story, same thing, you know? lol

Yes, how UNRESPONSIBLE of me to make such an assumption :hitting

[jameznyhc]

you can't expect someone who doesn't concern themselves w/ the proper spelling and use of words to be interested in semantics lol

reported on the story, broke the story, same thing, you know? lol

and this is when you know shae got schooled ..lol .. been awhile ..but i knew it was coming :heythere

[jameznyhc]

actually you have gotten personal, in response to others getting personal with you correct?

don't you dare say "i never get personal", never is the killer here. Usually would've worked just fine.

again, poor choice of words.

usually .. i stand corrected

[LittleBouncer]

Instigate?? ..i dont know you lol .. but your allways instigating shit with me.. i dont know why i even concern you ..if you got a prob with my posts offer an intelligent reply ..again i never get personal ..its all politics ..and fyi no i dont go running around pacha debating bush's policys lol .. time and place for everything kid

by the way at the end of the day who cares what his faith is

[ShaE]

and this is when you know shae got schooled ..lol .. been awhile ..but i knew it was coming :heythere
no jamez, i just find it ironic you call me dumb twice in one day and tell saidah she's "not bright"
yet your writing looks like a child got loose with the computer.

are you so caught up in your own shit you cannot see the irony in that?

someone who can't spell for shit arguing semantics.

it's hilarity.

[darius]

Yes - you're right but I say madrassa is a religious school bc in Islamic countries, if u call it a "madrassa" that tends to refer to a school where Islam is taught, and Arabic is taught, making it what we would consider a "religious" school.

Anyway the point is that when Fox reported on this story they were clearly trying to associate the school w/being some kind of radical/fundamentalist institution which breeds hate:

Fox & Friends host Steve Doocy pointed out that madrassas are “financed by Saudis” and “teach this Wahhabism which pretty much hates us,” then declared, “The big question is: was that on the curriculum back then?”

THIS is how they portrayed a "madrassa."

steve douchy has the IQ of my pitbull's morning turd. he doesn't do any research, he's just paid to read what he's handed or what pops up on the teleprompter.

there's no other word for school in arabic . . . it's "madrassa", actually its

مدرسة

try it . . . go to http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en&referrer=ign

go from english to arabic and see what pops up . . . if you can read their alphabet, its says "madrassa"

my point is that if you were living in say Dubai . . . and you went to a beautician school, it's called a "madrassa" or if you went to an American-run boarding school, run by Americans, teaching math, science, spelling, reading, it's called a "madrassa"

[JustLikeHeaven]

steve douchy has the IQ of my pitbull's morning turd. he doesn't do any research, he's just paid to read what he's handed or what pops up on the teleprompter.

there's no other word for school in arabic . . . it's "madrassa", actually its

مدرسة

try it . . . go to http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en&referrer=ign

go from english to arabic and see what pops up . . . if you can read their alphabet, its says "madrassa"

my point is that if you were living in say Dubai . . . and you went to a beautician school, it's called a "madrassa" or if you went to an American-run boarding school, run by Americans, teaching math, science, spelling, reading, it's called a "madrassa"

OK so then I guess I learned something as well. I only know a few words in Arabic, and they aren't very educational ones. lol

However I always thought madrassa had a religious connotation to it - isn't there another word for like school or university in Arabic?

[darius]

OK so then I guess I learned something as well. I only know a few words in Arabic, and they aren't very educational ones. lol

However I always thought madrassa had a religious connotation to it - isn't there another word for like school or university in Arabic?

yeah, there's another word for university . . . there's even a specific word for a high school.

[Studz]

Darius, i got tierd ALONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG time ago explaning things to Jamez, hell find some neocon website that says otherwise. Cause god forbid people who are FROM THERE dont know what it means but Tahir Amiri, a guy that lived there in the 70s and financed by the neocon repblican party does.

PUA-LEASE

[metfan85]

yeah, there's another word for university . . . there's even a specific word for a high school.

hey Darius how hard of a language to learn is Arabic? i've always wanted to learn it, had an Persian friend teaching me some words.

Wanna join the national clandestine service, I already know 2 languages, english and slavic. figure i learn it can make up for my grades not being so hot lately

[JustLikeHeaven]

hey Darius how hard of a language to learn is Arabic? i've always wanted to learn it, had an Persian friend teaching me some words.

Wanna join the national clandestine service, I already know 2 languages, english and slavic. figure i learn it can make up for my grades not being so hot lately

Persians don't speak Arabic, lol.

[jameznyhc]

no jamez, i just find it ironic you call me dumb twice in one day and tell saidah she's "not bright"
yet your writing looks like a child got loose with the computer.

are you so caught up in your own shit you cannot see the irony in that?

someone who can't spell for shit arguing semantics.

it's hilarity.

i see the mistakes i dont bother editing/ correcting lol .. i was calling you guys not so smart and bright because your telling me it wasnt a madrassa AFTER you looked up the word.. you were more concerned with proving me wrong than realizing your arguing about something you dont know..

You flip on americans thinking Barry's muslim ..yet you thought adrassas were radical ... ya see what happens when you generalize and you dont educate yourself?? ..

[JustLikeHeaven]

yeah, there's another word for university . . . there's even a specific word for a high school.

OK I guess I always associated madrassa with a religious school because I've only heard usage of the word in Islamic countries...but anyhow I knew that there was no radical/extremist association with it - which is what the BS story was trying to imply.

[metfan85]

Persians don't speak Arabic, lol.

thats why i said a few words.... he only knows english for the most part:neener

[ShaE]

i see the mistakes i dont bother editing/ correcting lol .. i was calling you guys not so smart and bright because your telling me it wasnt a madrassa AFTER you looked up the word.. you were more concerned with proving me wrong than realizing your arguing about something you dont know..

You flip on americans thinking Barry's muslim ..yet you thought adrassas were radical ... ya see what happens when you generalize and you dont educate yourself?? ..
i had every reason to think a madrassa was a radical school.
I had many definitions that said that it was.

there is no evidence of any kind supporting obama being a muslim, how can you equate my error with their REFUSAL to acknowledge truth? they have been shown NO EVIDENCE he is, they are just suspect that he is. how is that the same? i'm not denying what's in front of my eyes, when i was told by darius it's just a school, i stood corrected.

they've been corrected, but won't acknowledge it.

[jameznyhc]

OK I guess I always associated madrassa with a religious school because I've only heard usage of the word in Islamic countries...but anyhow I knew that there was no radical/extremist association with it - which is what the BS story was trying to imply.

lol that was my point!! .. that it wasnt radical

[JustLikeHeaven]

lol that was my point!! .. that it wasnt radical

Yea but that's the story your beloved FoxNews REPORTED ON
And the other discussion they had regarding the issue was even more hysterical.

[jameznyhc]

[QUOTE]i had every reason to think a madrassa was a radical school.

on what basis?


there is no evidence of any kind supporting obama being a muslim, how can you equate my error with their REFUSAL to acknowledge truth?

How about the fact he enrolled to his "christian " school as a "muslim" ..why was that?

[ShaE]

lol that was my point!! .. that it wasnt radical
and you also asked me what evidence was presented to people to show he was not muslim and was christian. that was a pretty stupid question, what were u driving at?

that these people that DEFY information shoved in their faces on the news daily were not given adequate sources to negate their ideas that he's muslim?

my ENTIRE POINT was that they had the correct information verified for them, and they deny facts. when I'm told by someone who speaks a language and is knowledgeable about it that the definition they're giving me is fact, i defer to them.

these people are stubborn and stupid. huge difference. of course, a detail again, that in your infinitely brilliant comparisons, you overlook.

[ShaE]

on what basis?


I told you, the definitions I found specified it. I only saw one other that called it a "muslim school". I didn't see any or know of any, that referred to it merely as a school. Multiple definitions are indeed a basis to define a word. Someone familiar with it personally, and the culture, has a more nuanced knowledge. How would I have that available to me? It's like teaching an immigrant english and expecting them to know nuances of the language, they're using a dictionary, they're taking literal definitions. I dont have a finely tuned knowledge of arabic vocabulary.



How about the fact he enrolled to his "christian " school as a "muslim" ..why was that?

what do you mean he enrolled to his christian school as a muslim? i dont even understand that question. how do you enroll to a school, and when was he ever muslim?

[darius]

hey Darius how hard of a language to learn is Arabic? i've always wanted to learn it, had an Persian friend teaching me some words.

Wanna join the national clandestine service, I already know 2 languages, english and slavic. figure i learn it can make up for my grades not being so hot lately

hmmm . . . interesting question. my personal impression is that it's quite difficult to learn to read/write . . . speaking might be easier (but still quite daunting) because there are a lot of methods out there that teach you conversational languages. given that i can speak farsi fluently, i can only pick out some words if people are talking arabic -- and then, to further complicate things, there are like a shit load of arabic dialects. the other thing about arabic is that it probably has the most extensive vocabulary. phrases, ideologies, concepts that would take us maybe a couple sentences to explain in detail might be equally, if not better defined in arabic with just 1 word.

one of best places to go to learn arabic is at an islamic community center. there are plenty that offer classes to the public

[jameznyhc]

and you also asked me what evidence was presented to people to show he was not muslim and was christian. that was a pretty stupid question, what were u driving at?

that these people that DEFY information shoved in their faces on the news daily were not given adequate sources to negate their ideas that he's muslim?

my ENTIRE POINT was that they had the correct information verified for them, and they deny facts. when I'm told by someone who speaks a language and is knowledgeable about it that the definition they're giving me is fact, i defer to them.

these people are stubborn and stupid. huge difference. of course, a detail again, that in your infinitely brilliant comparisons, you overlook.

ok show me where those 12% of people were shown evidence he isnt muslim ..

What if they saw his school record where it states he was muslim?? ..

Now me and you know he converted ..he says it himself ..

[jameznyhc]

I told you, the definitions I found specified it. I only saw one other that called it a "muslim school". I didn't see any or know of any, that referred to it merely as a school. Multiple definitions are indeed a basis to define a word. Someone familiar with it personally, and the culture, has a more nuanced knowledge. How would I have that available to me? It's like teaching an immigrant english and expecting them to know nuances of the language, they're using a dictionary, they're taking literal definitions. I dont have a finely tuned knowledge of arabic vocabulary.




what do you mean he enrolled to his christian school as a muslim? i dont even understand that question. how do you enroll to a school, and when was he ever muslim?


He attended 2 madrassas in indonesia the four years he spent there .. 2 years at the predominatly muslim one ..and two years at the christian one ..when he enrolled into the christian one he was enrolled as a "muslim" .. meaning that was his religion .. like when we have to choose white, black, asian pacific etc when we went to school ...in indonesia they identify not by race but religion

[ShaE]

ok show me where those 12% of people were shown evidence he isnt muslim ..



I'm sure each and every one of them has seen Rev. Wright on the news and is aware obama belonged to, was baptized in, and attended a Christian church as a Christian.

There is their evidence, and it was presented to them courtesy of the mainstream media.

[ShaE]

and no, I don't believe he ever said he converted. these are his words ont he topic:


<TABLE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 12px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=300 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: black 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: black 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: black 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: black 1px solid">http://www.danielpipes.org/pics/new/large/479.jpg Barack Obama at the Smoky Row Coffee Shop in Oskaloosa, Iowa.

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>The candidate for president of the United States has delivered two principal statements in reply. His campaign website (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_is_a_committed_christian.php) carries a statement dated Nov. 12 with the headline, "Barack Obama Is Not and Has Never Been a Muslim," followed by: "Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian." Then, on Dec. 22, in the unlikely setting of the Smoky Row Coffee Shop (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/23/voter-asks-obama-about-muslim-background/) in Oskaloosa, Iowa, as he munched on pumpkin pie and drank tea with four locals, Obama provided more detail took on this topic than before. When asked to explain his Muslim heritage (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/22/531492.aspx), he replied:

"My father was from Kenya, and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is he wasn't very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam. … For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that's a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn't practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues."

[ShaE]

If his parents put Muslim on his school enrollment papers, let's say, that says zero about his beliefs and what he practiced. He clearly says his father was non religious, and we know he later became an athiest. his mother ascribed to no formal religion. obama says he never was muslim .

so the only leg you're standing on here is that you say it says "muslim" on a school paper?
where did he every verbally acknowledge any conversion from islam to christianity?

[DJ Becka]

hmmm . . . interesting question. my personal impression is that it's quite difficult to learn to read/write . . . speaking might be easier (but still quite daunting) because there are a lot of methods out there that teach you conversational languages. given that i can speak farsi fluently, i can only pick out some words if people are talking arabic -- and then, to further complicate things, there are like a shit load of arabic dialects. the other thing about arabic is that it probably has the most extensive vocabulary. phrases, ideologies, concepts that would take us maybe a couple sentences to explain in detail might be equally, if not better defined in arabic with just 1 word.

one of best places to go to learn arabic is at an islamic community center. there are plenty that offer classes to the public

If you guys are interested, I found a website that has resources for learning languages...I´m pretty sure they had the Pimsleur course for Arabic available for free too, so hit me up and I´ll send you the link.....they have lots of other languages too in case you are interested....

I already downloaded the Western Armenian course from the site.....so far, it's going really well :agree


ps - at this point, anyone who still thinks Obama is a muslim is a mo-ron.....

[jameznyhc]

I'm sure each and every one of them has seen Rev. Wright on the news and is aware obama belonged to, was baptized in, and attended a Christian church as a Christian.

There is their evidence, and it was presented to them courtesy of the mainstream media.

And im sure you would have known what a madrassa was after that huge story broke anout obama attending one correct?? ..ya see shae your just as misinformed ..shame on you being so educated not living in the mid west lol!!!!..title of your thread is really ironic

Now because he was registered muslim in his school and its documented that could cause a misunderstanding like you had.. because of his muslim name maybe there was misunderstanding ..also it was reported his church trinity awarded minister farrakhan leader of nation of islam person of the year award.. so a dumb misinformed person may conclude trinity wasnt christian .. they could be misinformed as you were

Dont forget in his own book in his own words he went to muslim school for 2 years that was all over the news

[jameznyhc]

I told you, the definitions I found specified it. I only saw one other that called it a "muslim school". I didn't see any or know of any, that referred to it merely as a school. Multiple definitions are indeed a basis to define a word. Someone familiar with it personally, and the culture, has a more nuanced knowledge. How would I have that available to me? It's like teaching an immigrant english and expecting them to know nuances of the language, they're using a dictionary, they're taking literal definitions. I dont have a finely tuned knowledge of arabic vocabulary.




what do you mean he enrolled to his christian school as a muslim? i dont even understand that question. how do you enroll to a school, and when was he ever muslim?

so i decided to google to the definiton of the word madrassa...funny first link provided was this definiton i found..

Madrasah (Arabic: مدرسة, madrasa pl. madāris مدارس) is the Arabic word for any type of school, secular or religious (of any religion). It is variously transliterated as madrasah, madarasaa, medresa, madrassa, madraza, madarsa, etc.


Hmmm someone is telling a fib ...I could be wrong.. can i have your link pleae?

[Defekted]

hey Darius how hard of a language to learn is Arabic? i've always wanted to learn it, had an Persian friend teaching me some words.

Wanna join the national clandestine service, I already know 2 languages, english and slavic. figure i learn it can make up for my grades not being so hot lately

its a very difficult language.

I speak it but do not write and read. If you want a career in the CIA you definitely should look into learning it. They are in dire need of arabic speakers.

[Defekted]

so i decided to google to the definiton of the word madrassa...funny first link provided was this definiton i found..

Madrasah (Arabic: مدرسة, madrasa pl. madāris مدارس) is the Arabic word for any type of school, secular or religious (of any religion). It is variously transliterated as madrasah, madarasaa, medresa, madrassa, madraza, madarsa, etc.


Hmmm someone is telling a fib ...I could be wrong.. can i have your link pleae?

Madrasa does mean school in arabic. However in INDONESIA, which doesnt speak Arabic, does not call all their public schools MADRASAs.....they call their ISLAMIC SCHOOLS MADRASAS because you only learn the koran in its native language - arabic. So they call their islamic school's madrasas. Hence why the principal in the link i provided said it was not a madrassa. Understand?

[jameznyhc]

Madrasa does mean school in arabic. However in INDONESIA, which doesnt speak Arabic, does not call all their public schools MADRASAs.....they call their ISLAMIC SCHOOLS MADRASAS because you only learn the koran in its native language - arabic. So they call their islamic school's madrasas. Hence why the principal in the link i provided said it was not a madrassa. Understand?

link please..

[John Kennedy]

link please

lol

[Defekted]

link please..

you are a do it yourself conservative. Find it. I posted it once, I dont do anything twice unless your hot girl.

[JustLikeHeaven]

Madrasa does mean school in arabic. However in INDONESIA, which doesnt speak Arabic, does not call all their public schools MADRASAs.....they call their ISLAMIC SCHOOLS MADRASAS because you only learn the koran in its native language - arabic. So they call their islamic school's madrasas. Hence why the principal in the link i provided said it was not a madrassa. Understand?

This is why I was saying that a madrassa refers to a Muslim school - because as far as I've always found, in non-Arabic speaking, predominantly Muslim countries i.e. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Indonesia etc etc...it IS used to refer to Islamic schools., where religion is taught as well as the Arabic language.

BUT it is NOT, in ANY Islamic country used to refer solely to radical/extremist-breeding institutions, as madrassas were called by Fox & Friends retards. And that was the whole argument - however u wanna spin it the school he attended was NOT a religious school - and certainly not a radical one.

[JustLikeHeaven]

so i decided to google to the definiton of the word madrassa...funny first link provided was this definiton i found..

Madrasah (Arabic: ?????, madrasa pl. madaris ?????) is the Arabic word for any type of school, secular or religious (of any religion). It is variously transliterated as madrasah, madarasaa, medresa, madrassa, madraza, madarsa, etc.


Hmmm someone is telling a fib ...I could be wrong.. can i have your link pleae?

Google this:

Inta himar

[metfan85]

Google this:

Inta himar

this is what came up lol....

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WBVIYp566vY&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WBVIYp566vY&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[jameznyhc]

this is what came up lol....

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wbviyp566vy&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wbviyp566vy&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

:lol

[JustLikeHeaven]

What is it ?
I told u guys I can't view videos at work!!! lol

[metfan85]

What is it ?
I told u guys I can't view videos at work!!! lol

i keep forgetting lol.. its a soccer match between Iran and South Korea that was the first thing that popped up on google lol

[jameznyhc]

This is why I was saying that a madrassa refers to a Muslim school - because as far as I've always found, in non-Arabic speaking, predominantly Muslim countries i.e. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Indonesia etc etc...it IS used to refer to Islamic schools., where religion is taught as well as the Arabic language.

BUT it is NOT, in ANY Islamic country used to refer solely to radical/extremist-breeding institutions, as madrassas were called by Fox & Friends retards. And that was the whole argument - however u wanna spin it the school he attended was NOT a religious school - and certainly not a radical one.

if it wasnt religous why do they have an islam religion teacher ,..teaching the kids islam?? ..lol .. why a mosque in the courtyard?.. again we all know it wasnt a radical madrassa thats why insight got blasted ..one more time Fox and friends host SPECIFIED saudi type madrassas teach wahhabism and exteme islam we all know this .. the insight mag attempted to portaray Obamas madrassa as a radical one .. A Madrassa can also be christian lol ..its a fuckin school ..this thread is over ..im done

[Chris]

im not surprised esp since between 8 and 11 percent of Americans believed as of August 2002 that Elvis was still alive, 25 years after what was reported to be his death
This is the gene pool we are dealing with

same gene pool that voted bush into office 2 terms in a row...

[JustLikeHeaven]

if it wasnt religous why do they have an islam religion teacher ,..teaching the kids islam?? ..lol .. why a mosque in the courtyard?.. again we all know it wasnt a radical madrassa thats why insight got blasted ..one more time Fox and friends host SPECIFIED saudi type madrassas teach wahhabism and exteme islam we all know this .. the insight mag attempted to portaray Obamas madrassa as a radical one .. A Madrassa can also be christian lol ..its a fuckin school ..this thread is over ..im done

LOL no this is what he said:

DOOCY: We should also point out that Barack Obama’s father is the one who gave him the middle name of Hussein. And the thing about the madrassa, and you know, let’s just be honest about this, in the last number of years, madrassas have been, we’ve learned a lot about them, financed by Saudis, they teach this Wahhabism which pretty much hates us. The big question is was that on the curriculum back then? Probably not, but it was a madrassa and the big question is whether or not any of these revelations about the fact that he was a Muslim — right now I understand he does go to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, although not a regular parishioner — but raised as a Muslim, went to a madrassa

So not only did this moron say that in recent yrs madrassas are financed by SA and teach Wahhabism, he also said that Obama was raised as a Muslim...lmao. This came outta his mouth, not Insight Mag.

[jameznyhc]

LOL no this is what he said:

DOOCY: We should also point out that Barack Obama’s father is the one who gave him the middle name of Hussein. And the thing about the madrassa, and you know, let’s just be honest about this, in the last number of years, madrassas have been, we’ve learned a lot about them, financed by Saudis, they teach this Wahhabism which pretty much hates us. The big question is was that on the curriculum back then? Probably not, but it was a madrassa and the big question is whether or not any of these revelations about the fact that he was a Muslim — right now I understand he does go to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, although not a regular parishioner — but raised as a Muslim, went to a madrassa

So not only did this moron say that in recent yrs madrassas are financed by SA and teach Wahhabism, he also said that Obama was raised as a Muslim...lmao. This came outta his mouth, not Insight Mag.

Geez just when i thought this thread was over... The reason he may have thought Obama was raised muslim ..is because he registered as a "muslim" in both madrassas he attended...

your calling him a moron because he said SA finances madrassas that teach wahhabism ?..lol so not only do you have zero clue on SA radicalism ..your the one who didnt even know what a madrassa actually is lol

[JustLikeHeaven]

Geez just when i thought this thread was over... The reason he may have thought Obama was raised muslim ..is because he registered as a "muslim" in both madrassas he attended...

your calling him a moron because he said SA finances madrassas that teach wahhabism ?..lol so not only do you have zero clue on SA radicalism ..your the one who didnt even know what a madrassa actually is lol

Since when did I say that SA radicalism doesn't exist? I'm calling him a moron because he generalized and said that ALL madrassas teach Wahabbism and are financed by Saudis.."in recent yrs." Has no clue wtf he is talking about...

And how u figure I didn't even know what a madrassa is?! I told u that in NON-Arabic speaking Islamic countries, it is used to refer to religious schools (and not radical ones). I didn't know that some Arab countries use it to refer to any kind of school. The country in question was Indonesia therefore I was right. So shut up. LOL.

[jameznyhc]

Since when did I say that SA radicalism doesn't exist? I'm calling him a moron because he generalized and said that ALL madrassas teach Wahabbism and are financed by Saudis.."in recent yrs." Has no clue wtf he is talking about...

And how u figure I didn't even know what a madrassa is?! I told u that in NON-Arabic speaking Islamic countries, it is used to refer to religious schools (and not radical ones). I didn't know that some Arab countries use it to refer to any kind of school. The country in question was Indonesia therefore I was right. So shut up. LOL.

dont you have a video of soccer match to post somewhere..lol :chuckle

[JustLikeHeaven]

dont you have a video of soccer match to post somewhere..lol :chuckle

I didn't post that?

[jameznyhc]

I didn't post that?

your link .. lol ..when googled a soccer match comes up lol .. you cant see it cause your job blocks it ..i thought it was funny ..not dissin ya

[JustLikeHeaven]

your link .. lol ..when googled a soccer match comes up lol .. you cant see it cause your job blocks it ..i thought it was funny ..not dissin ya

Oh...I have no idea why a soccer match comes up.
It wasn't a link, if I tell u what it means I guess u will be adding me back to your ignore list. LMAO.