is it better to do cardio....

[chachie]

before or after u eat well, obviously, after u eat something
but what i really mean is: would i burn more calories off faster if i ate before or after?

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

you should eat a small snack before you go to fuel you. not a heavy meal, but a protein shake with some carbs in it.

[chachie]

what if, lets say...i only had an apple lol and im hungry and dont have any protein shakes

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

what if, lets say...i only had an apple lol and im hungry and dont have any protein shakes
apple is not enough. youll end up doing more damage than good if you keep that up. cardio takes fuel. if you dont fuel, youll die out.

[chachie]

apple is not enough. youll end up doing more damage than good if you keep that up. cardio takes fuel. if you dont fuel, youll die out.

yea, i figured that lol but what about my other question?
do u burn the food off (calories off) faster if u eat before or after? or both? lol

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

depending on what you eat and how vigorous the cardio, you're body will burn the food off immediately then work on the fat storage. i believe thats the hierarchy of fuel, someone can correct me if im wrong, but i think the body uses whats in the belly first, then once it runs out it drains the fat storage.

[chachie]

oOoOo, ok....thanks man :)

[JerZgirL]

depending on what you eat and how vigorous the cardio, you're body will burn the food off immediately then work on the fat storage. i believe thats the hierarchy of fuel, someone can correct me if im wrong, but i think the body uses whats in the belly first, then once it runs out it drains the fat storage.

I believe you're correct. That's why they say that early morning cardio is best for weight loss b/c the belly has no food in it & you're burning the fat stores for fuel :rope

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

would that negate my theory then? With that kind of thought process, one would be led to believe cardio on empty stomach is best, no?

[chachie]

I believe you're correct. That's why they say that early morning cardio is best for weight loss b/c the belly has no food in it & you're burning the fat stores for fuel :rope

so wait, then youre not supposed to eat anything b4 hand? :hmmm
now im confused lol

[JerZgirL]

so wait, then youre not supposed to eat anything b4 hand? :hmmm
now im confused lol

a shake is ok, but not a full meal...

i've done spin class on an empty stomach, but not many people can handle vigorous cardio like that. it makes you nauseous & you tire out easily...

[chachie]

a shake is ok, but not a full meal...

i've done spin class on an empty stomach, but not many people can handle vigorous cardio like that. it makes you nauseous & you tire out easily...

lol i just wanna ride the bike for 15-20 mins and all i had is an apple and im hungry
so being hungry and haviing an empty stomach and not being hungry, is that any different for my body? and keep in mind i dont have any protein shakes...

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

you should eat a small snack before you go to fuel you. not a heavy meal, but a protein shake with some carbs in it.

no take some bcaas then do 30 empty stomach YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
we went thru this

[RICKY]

I run 5 miles every other night. I would never be able to do it on an empty stomach

[chachie]

no take some bcaas then do 30 empty stomach YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
we went thru this

:hmmm

[chachie]

and im still not sure if ill burn the food off faster/better if i eat b4 or after LOL
u people are confusing me!!! :confused:

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

20 min wont do anything unless its HIGH INTENSITY cardio

[chachie]

20 min wont do anything unless its HIGH INTENSITY cardio

i burn about 100 calories and i go 4 miles....and sweat my ass offfff!
do u consider that high intensity? lol if not youre basically telling me im doing it for nothing?

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

20 min wont do anything unless its HIGH INTENSITY cardio

yeah crash and burn u sick whats low intensity u crazy
high intensity cardio is not on the elipitical talkin to your girlfriends about 90210
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

yeah crash and burn u sick whats low intensity u crazy
high intensity cardio is not on the elipitical talkin to your girlfriends about 90210
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
wait huh? are u debating me or agreeing? lol i cant tell

[chachie]

high intensity cardio is not on the elipitical talkin to your girlfriends about 90210
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

that is so not me or what i do :disappoin

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

i burn about 100 calories and i go 4 miles....and sweat my ass offfff!
do u consider that high intensity? lol if not youre basically telling me im doing it for nothing?
100 calories is not much, honestly. you should be burning 100 calories every 10 minutes

[chachie]

wait huh? are u debating me or agreeing? lol i cant tell

hey hey! back to me and my questions please :agree

[chachie]

you should be burning 10 calories every 10 minutes

ummm i burn more than 10 calories in 10 mins....i burn that in 1 minute lol :yourcrazy
i really think u made a typing error here lol
so really, youre telling me im doing NOTHING then? i shouldnt even bother?
b/c that would really PISS ME OFF!

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

ummm i burn more than 10 calories in 10 mins....i burn that in 1 minute lol :yourcrazy
i really think u made a typing error here lol
meant 100

[chachie]

meant 100

re-read....i edited my response.

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

that is so not me or what i do :disappoin

did i say u i was makin a point

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

re-read....i edited my response.
no no its not that you shouldnt do it, but maybe increase the time doing it. of course its doing something but i dont know your goal. if its to lose weight, i dont think 100 calories a session will have any effect. not putting you down at all, keep at it!

[chachie]

did i say u i was makin a point

ew dont get snotty with me....i wasnt saying YOU were talking about ME!
dont assume, it makes an ASS out of U and ME!

[chachie]

no no its not that you shouldnt do it, but maybe increase the time doing it. of course its doing something but i dont know your goal. if its to lose weight, i dont think 100 calories a session will have any effect. not putting you down at all, keep at it!

this thread is SO unmotivaltional :disgusted
and yet i still dont have the exact answers that i asked

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

this thread is SO unmotivaltional :disgusted
and yet i still dont have the exact answers that i asked
dont get defensive chach. just being straight with you. i would never put you down and im sorry if im coming across that way.

ask jerz girl what she does for cardio, shes a prime example./

chach :heart

[chachie]

dont get defensive chach. just being straight with you. i would never put you down and im sorry if im coming across that way.

ask jerz girl what she does for cardio, shes a prime example./

chach :heart

im not getting defensive, im getting unmotivated lol
and can someone please answer the questions i asked already?!?!?!?
half way down page 1

[DEEPER KEMICAL]

high intensity all depends on the level of fitness you have. some people, high intensity is DRIPPING sweat at 10 minutes, others its 20. all depends on the person.

i would highly recommend doing High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) as cardio. youll burn 2x as much calories and finish in 3/4 the time

[chachie]

lol i just wanna ride the bike for 15-20 mins and all i had is an apple and im hungry
so being hungry and haviing an empty stomach and not being hungry, is that any different for my body? and keep in mind i dont have any protein shakes...


and im still not sure if ill burn the food off faster/better if i eat b4 or after LOL
u people are confusing me!!! :confused:

:bored
and now, im even MORE hungry

[chachie]

high intensity all depends on the level of fitness you have. some people, high intensity is DRIPPING sweat at 10 minutes, others its 20. all depends on the person.

i would highly recommend doing High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) as cardio. youll burn 2x as much calories and finish in 3/4 the time

oh trust me, i AM dripping sweat at 10 mins
and also keep in mind that im not on a tread mill im riding a stationary bike!

[TEMPERAMENTAL]

no take some bcaas then do 30 empty stomach YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
we went thru this
I thought you said only 20 min in another thread :hmmm

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

I thought you said only 20 min in another thread :hmmm
20 30 whats ten minutes.........i was taught 20 minutes 30 is ok 45 is risky u might pass out if your hittting it hard YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[chachie]

u know what...fuck it! im still gonna do my 20 mins/4 miles of riding my stationary bike everyday or everyother day and ill see what my results are :snobbish

[just jess]

chach i work out before dinner, i come home eat an apple with a scoop of some natural pb as my snack...drink an esspresso and then hit the gym ...then come home and eat dinner

i cannot work out on a full stomach..apple hits the spot.

[chachie]

chach i work out before dinner, i come home eat an apple with a scoop of some natural pb as my snack...drink an esspresso and then hit the gym ...then come home and eat dinner

i cannot work out on a full stomach..apple hits the spot.

thanks, now this i can relate to! lol
but what if all u had that day was an apple so far? lol i dont think thats too safe

[TEMPERAMENTAL]

20 30 whats ten minutes.........i was taught 20 minutes 30 is ok 45 is risky u might pass out if your hittting it hard YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
ten extra minutes might break me :chuckle

[just jess]

thanks, now this i can relate to! lol
but what if all u had that day was an apple so far? lol i dont think thats too safe

that is not good, you want to wake up and eat something when you first wake up--and eat small portions during the day to keep your metabolism going :agree i am trying to eat my biggest meal of the day at lunch--usually some sort of chicken with greens and then my snack before the gym...gotta keep your metabolism going girl :agree

[chachie]

that is not good, you want to wake up and eat something when you first wake up--and eat small portions during the day to keep your metabolism going :agree i am trying to eat my biggest meal of the day at lunch--usually some sort of chicken with greens and then my snack before the gym...gotta keep your metabolism going girl :agree

:agree yup.....i was doing jenny craig for a while (to train my body portion control) but it costs way too much money for the damn food! :disgusted so now i write down everything i eat, what time i ate and how many carbs and cals it has...i usually eat every 2-3 hours

[JerZgirL]

Chach,

I'm gonna attempt to answer but I hope my response doesnt get lost in translation. If you eat first, your body is gonna burn off the food you just ate. For example, if you eat 100 calories before your workout, those calories are the first thing your body is burning to fuel your workout. After those 100 calories are gone, your body proceeds to utilize the fat stores for energy. After your workout, you should consume protein (doesnt have to be a shake) optimally within the first 45 minutes to help the muscles repair themselves & see results faster. Your resting metabolic rate is elevated after your workout, but you want to stick to something light & wait a while before eating an entire meal.

So my answer is this, eat the apple before you go work out. But have a little tuna or a half a grilled chicken breast when you get done working out to help feed your body & continue to burn.

My head is spinning from what I wrote. Let me know if it makes sense. I'll give you the diet I used, if you want but it's very boring. If you think of the food as fuel, you'll get through it. Just use alot of black pepper, hot sauce, spicy mustard, etc.:heart

[Demz]

weight watchers always worked for me (when i cared enough to actually stick to it) its not too mad either u can eat wat u want when u want.. just gatta not over eat n watch wat ur eating

i gatta start dieting again.. im starting to feel like a heffaaaaaa lol

[chachie]

Chach,

I'm gonna attempt to answer but I hope my response doesnt get lost in translation. If you eat first, your body is gonna burn off the food you just ate. For example, if you eat 100 calories before your workout, those calories are the first thing your body is burning to fuel your workout. After those 100 calories are gone, your body proceeds to utilize the fat stores for energy. After your workout, you should consume protein (doesnt have to be a shake) optimally within the first 45 minutes to help the muscles repair themselves & see results faster. Your resting metabolic rate is elevated after your workout, but you want to stick to something light & wait a while before eating an entire meal.

So my answer is this, eat the apple before you go work out. But have a little tuna or a half a grilled chicken breast when you get done working out to help feed your body & continue to burn.

My head is spinning from what I wrote. Let me know if it makes sense. I'll give you the diet I used, if you want but it's very boring. If you think of the food as fuel, you'll get through it. Just use alot of black pepper, hot sauce, spicy mustard, etc.:heart

:applause now thats what i was looking for! :agree
thank u so much for going into detail :heart
if its not too much trouble u can tell me the diet u used and ill see if i can hack it lol
OH, and i can use peanut buttter for protein, right? (i dont like tuna/seafood lol)

[chachie]

weight watchers always worked for me (when i cared enough to actually stick to it) its not too mad either u can eat wat u want when u want.. just gatta not over eat n watch wat ur eating

yea, i ate a few of the "Smart Ones" meals last week (they go by the point system of weight watchers so i guess its the samething) and they werent bad :) like said earlier in the thread -potion control- :agree

[Jiggalicious]

If I do serious cardio for 35+ minutes on an empty stomach or a fruit, I'll def' pass out. I usually always mix 20g+ protein in any form and a carb/fat (peanut butter, nuts, fruit). I always do my cardio in the a.m. too.

[chachie]

If I do serious cardio for 35+ minutes on an empty stomach or a fruit, I'll def' pass out. I usually always mix 20g+ protein in any form and a carb/fat (peanut butter, nuts, fruit). I always do my cardio in the a.m. too.

yea, i dont do my cardio in the a.m.

[Demz]

is it better to do it in the am though?:hmmm

[chachie]

is it better to do it in the am though?:hmmm

probably but IMO, cardio is cardio no matter what time of the day

[igor]

best time to do cardio is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach with some hydroxycut hardcore :)
worked for me!

[chachie]

best time to do cardio is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach with some hydroxycut hardcore :)
worked for me!

yea, but shouldnt u have SOMEthing in your stomach so u dont passout?!
the whole empty stomach thing, IMO, is not healthy/safe :shrugger

[igor]

i was doing an hour of cardio every morning for 8 weeks prior to show and always first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. my stomach could tolerate it but everyone is different. do what works best for you. i would eat something small like a energy bar thats low in sugar and calories. the whole point of the empty stomach is that your body has no other choice but to use the stored fat as energy to burn off those calories.

[chachie]

i was doing an hour of cardio every morning for 8 weeks prior to show and always first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. my stomach could tolerate it but everyone is different. do what works best for you. i would eat something small like a energy bar thats low in sugar and calories. the whole point of the empty stomach is that your body has no other choice but to use the stored fat as energy to burn off those calories.

ok, so TECHNICALLY, thats not an "empty stomach" lol

[igor]

ok, so TECHNICALLY, thats not an "empty stomach" lol

lol i was telling you to try that....i always do it on an empty stomach

[chachie]

lol i was telling you to try that....i always do it on an empty stomach

oops, my bust :shuffle
if i wasnt hungry i can see doing it maybe...but if youre very hungry, i dont think its a good idea :giveup

[igor]

oops, my bust :shuffle
if i wasnt hungry i can see doing it maybe...but if youre very hungry, i dont think its a good idea :giveup

try doing cardio on an empty stomach and see how you feel. trust me i was a hungry man while dieting and still did it. of course it didnt feel great but i would have a 50g isopure protein shake immediately after the cardio session and was back to normal.

[chachie]

try doing cardio on an empty stomach and see how you feel. trust me i was a hungry man while dieting and still did it. of course it didnt feel great but i would have a 50g isopure protein shake immediately after the cardio session and was back to normal.

yea, but the problem is i dont do my cardio in the morning lol
sooooo....thats kinda impossible!

[igor]

oh, well now u have some info on it if you do decide to start doing it in the morning! :agree

[chachie]

oh, well now u have some info on it if you do decide to start doing it in the morning! :agree

indeed i do! :)
but i doubt ill ever do it in the morning lol

[igor]

i dont blame you...it sux gettin up and knowing u gotta head to the cardio machine:disappoin

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

ten extra minutes might break me :chuckle

i started at 20 minutes in morning then i started takin bcaas that gives u that extra kick but i get light headed and gotta get off and eat lol

[TEMPERAMENTAL]

i started at 20 minutes in morning then i started takin bcaas that gives u that extra kick but i get light headed and gotta get off and eat lol
that's my problem...whenever I try to do more than 20 minutes I have to stop because I feel like I'm going to throw up and then faint lol

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

that's my problem...whenever I try to do more than 20 minutes I have to stop because I feel like I'm going to throw up and then faint lol

its not a problem that means u your doin it right WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR your not half assing it

[JerZgirL]

:applause now thats what i was looking for! :agree
thank u so much for going into detail :heart
if its not too much trouble u can tell me the diet u used and ill see if i can hack it lol
OH, and i can use peanut buttter for protein, right? (i dont like tuna/seafood lol)

I was gonna pm, but i'll post in case anyone else is interested....

Yes, peanut butter is a great source of protein. So are egg whites. You can buy them already separated if you don't want to do it yourself. Actually, that grocery list that Deeper posted a while back is a great resource to go by. Also, I advise you to get some Whey Protein Isolate. It is a must for me. This is what I was eating, because i find it easier to prepare my meals in advance & stick to the same foods. By all means, mix it up, but stick to the basic guidelines. I eat every 2 1/2 hours, but you can streach to 3 to 4. The basic idea is just to keep the insulin levels steady & the metabolism up. I can compare it to adding wood to keep a fire burning. SO here goes:

Breakfast
3 egg whites
1/2 cup or 1 envelope of plain oatmeal
a piece/ serving of fruit

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake- (mixed with water)

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 breast grilled chicken
1/2 cup brown rice

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 chicken breast grilled or beef
1 cup veggies

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake


From this point on, i would just drink a shake if I got hungry or eat a plain rice cake with some peanut butter. Try not to eat after 6 pm, only a shake if you get hungry.

Like I said, it might sound a little extreme, but everyone's different, so make it fit your body. Like if you find you're still hungry, add more veggies, etc. You get the idea. I've lost weight a few times in my life, & i found that I need a structured diet like this to keep me in line. & like I said before, feel free to swap out foods with things you like. If you don't like chicken, eat beef.

It's kind of hard at first, but trust me, it's worth it. :heart

[JerZgirL]

oh yeah, I don't know about you, but I retain water like it's my job. Try to stay away from sodium. I would season my food with cayenne pepper & other spices or spice mixes that are sodium free.

[TEMPERAMENTAL]

its not a problem that means u your doin it right WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR your not half assing it
warrrrrrrrrrrr :fight lol

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

warrrrrrrrrrrr :fight lol

when i first started my change to became vigorous again, that helped me drop weight more efficiently
yessssssssssssss

[TEMPERAMENTAL]

when i first started my change to became vigorous again, that helped me drop weight more efficiently
yessssssssssssss
It's not really weight that I have to lose. I'm 5'4" and fluctuate between 112-114 lbs. Just trying to tighten everything up so I do cardio & weights :WINK

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

It's not really weight that I have to lose. I'm 5'4" and fluctuate between 112-114 lbs. Just trying to tighten everything up so I do cardio & weights :WINK
yeah big fan of the morning cardio empty stomach warrrrrrrrr yesssssssssss:wallbang:wallbang

[TEMPERAMENTAL]

yeah big fan of the morning cardio empty stomach warrrrrrrrr yesssssssssss:wallbang:wallbang
seriously I have to talk myself into it every single day lol :shootme

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

seriously I have to talk myself into it every single day lol :shootme
my sched is wacko so I get in the the gym in morning 3 days once I start my new job ill be straight

[blondie]

call me crazy but wouldn't everyone differ as to what works best for their body/workout? what works for one person obviously may not work for someone else. just sayiN

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

call me crazy but wouldn't everyone differ as to what works best for their body/workout? what works for one person obviously may not work for someone else. just sayiN

what works for u GERGIN LUGES OVER FLURDGERGIN DRY HUMPGERGIN LOAF SPRINTS TO NEW PARK PIZZA
your right every1 is different but if some1 posts something and u work it into your routine and it helps u out........YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSerg in

[blondie]

what works for u GERGIN LUGES OVER FLURDGERGIN DRY HUMPGERGIN LOAF SPRINTS TO NEW PARK PIZZA
your right every1 is different but if some1 posts something and u work it into your routine and it helps u out........YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSerg in

:hitting


correction::: New Park sprints TO ME :hungry :keke

Very true, pointers always help but this thread seems like it's either a right or wrong answer which seems silly to me when you're talking about workouts and individual ppl's bodies.
when i had room for my treadmill and used it daily, i ran in the mornings as soon as i got up...no food, usually just coffee and that worked for ME, just as i'm sure that wouldn't work for someone else. just my opinion. ftw

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

:hitting


correction::: New Park sprints TO ME :hungry :keke

Very true, pointers always help but this thread seems like it's either a right or wrong answer which seems silly to me when you're talking about workouts and individual ppl's bodies.
when i had room for my treadmill and used it daily, i ran in the mornings as soon as i got up...no food, usually just coffee and that worked for ME, just as i'm sure that wouldn't work for someone else. just my opinion. ftw

why wouldnt it work for every1, u get out of bed swig some coffee walk out of your house walk for 20 minutes to start or run , u got a treadmill in the house even easier, if u have i medical condition then thats a different story likeif your diabetic this might cause an issue but if your fit and able it works, if u say u cant then thats your own problem and dont get me started lol

[chachie]

I was gonna pm, but i'll post in case anyone else is interested....

Yes, peanut butter is a great source of protein. So are egg whites. You can buy them already separated if you don't want to do it yourself. Actually, that grocery list that Deeper posted a while back is a great resource to go by. Also, I advise you to get some Whey Protein Isolate. It is a must for me. This is what I was eating, because i find it easier to prepare my meals in advance & stick to the same foods. By all means, mix it up, but stick to the basic guidelines. I eat every 2 1/2 hours, but you can streach to 3 to 4. The basic idea is just to keep the insulin levels steady & the metabolism up. I can compare it to adding wood to keep a fire burning. SO here goes:

Breakfast
3 egg whites
1/2 cup or 1 envelope of plain oatmeal
a piece/ serving of fruit

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake- (mixed with water)

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 breast grilled chicken
1/2 cup brown rice

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 chicken breast grilled or beef
1 cup veggies

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake


From this point on, i would just drink a shake if I got hungry or eat a plain rice cake with some peanut butter. Try not to eat after 6 pm, only a shake if you get hungry.

Like I said, it might sound a little extreme, but everyone's different, so make it fit your body. Like if you find you're still hungry, add more veggies, etc. You get the idea. I've lost weight a few times in my life, & i found that I need a structured diet like this to keep me in line. & like I said before, feel free to swap out foods with things you like. If you don't like chicken, eat beef.

It's kind of hard at first, but trust me, it's worth it. :heart

thanks chickie! :heythere
ill let u know if i decide to do this and stuff :agree

[chachie]

so i just upped my game.....40 mins and 8 miles
i cant bend my knees right now lol all shakey and shit

[Demz]

i have a question for u all.. u no how ur not suppose 2 eat after a cirtain time.. ive heard 6 ive heard 8 ive heard 9... i dont have a normal schedual.. i work 1-9 so im always up late n i wake up later then the norm... wats the avg amount of time u need between ur last meal and bed... bc thats what i am always confused about

[chachie]

i have a question for u all.. u no how ur not suppose 2 eat after a cirtain time.. ive heard 6 ive heard 8 ive heard 9... i dont have a normal schedual.. i work 1-9 so im always up late n i wake up later then the norm... wats the avg amount of time u need between ur last meal and bed... bc thats what i am always confused about

i always used to try not to eat past 8pm but i think its MORE about portion control and LESS about what time youre eating....i also read somewhere that its a myth (the time thing)

[Demz]

i always used to try not to eat past 8pm but i think its MORE about portion control and LESS about what time youre eating....i also read somewhere that its a myth (the time thing)

i dont think its really a myth bc if i stuff my face like a fatass b4 bed when i wake up i feel all blahhhhhhhhhhhhhh or im really really really extra hungry for sum reason

i hadda really bad day yesterday so i really didnt eat much.. i woke up n i wasnt hungry till lunch..

i needa start eating right... thats step 1...:shuffle

[igor]

eat more often and smaller portions. always have a protein like chicken,fish,steak and a carb like rice cakes, brown rice, oatmeal etc....
the more often you eat, the faster your metabolism will be.

[VIGOROUSJONESY]

eat more often and smaller portions. Always have a protein like chicken,fish,steak and a carb like rice cakes, brown rice, oatmeal etc....
The more often you eat, the faster your metabolism will be.

school um yessssssssssssss

[igor]

school um yessssssssssssss

haha u know it!

[Demz]

eat more often and smaller portions. always have a protein like chicken,fish,steak and a carb like rice cakes, brown rice, oatmeal etc....
the more often you eat, the faster your metabolism will be.

I know to east more often but like i said.. is there a cirtain time btwn last mean n sleep that i should know about... like i would imagine eating n then 1/2 an hour sleepin isnt the best thing for 1 to do

[chachie]

I know to east more often but like i said.. is there a cirtain time btwn last mean n sleep that i should know about... like i would imagine eating n then 1/2 an hour sleepin isnt the best thing for 1 to do

LOL noone answers the right questions around here! :chuckle
well, i gave u an answer :giveup

[chachie]

and what? noone rewards me for doing 8 miles today?! :snobbish

[chachie]

school um yessssssssssssss

he didnt "school me" lol i already knew this :agree

[chachie]

i dont think its really a myth bc if i stuff my face like a fatass b4 bed when i wake up i feel all blahhhhhhhhhhhhhh or im really really really extra hungry for sum reason

i hadda really bad day yesterday so i really didnt eat much.. i woke up n i wasnt hungry till lunch..

i needa start eating right... thats step 1...:shuffle

:agree
and as for "STUFFING your face" RIGHT b4 u go to bed i dont think its a good idea
try to go to bed later? lol i dunno

[igor]

space your meals 2-2.5 hours apart from each other. the idea is, that you wanna keep your metabolism going as much as possible. you dont want to let it slow down. i eat my last meal which is 4 whole eggs and a 40g isopure shake and go to bed maybe an hour or two after. as long as your diet and cardio routine is in check, your good.

p.s. - make sure you drink PLENTY of water throughout the day (natural diuretic)

[Demz]

LOL noone answers the right questions around here! :chuckle
well, i gave u an answer :giveup

i no u did lol :heart


and what? noone rewards me for doing 8 miles today?! :snobbish
GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!!!!!!!! :yipee:applaud:agree


:agree
and as for "STUFFING your face" RIGHT b4 u go to bed i dont think its a good idea
try to go to bed later? lol i dunno

:werdsign ... but if i go 2 sleep any later ill b awake when every1 else is gettin ready for work lol.. im usually in bed by 1 but watch tv till like 3-4.. its terrible..

[chachie]

and a 40g isopure shake

the thing about this is, a lot of us are just eating regular foods lol no protein shakes are invovled

[igor]

the thing about this is, a lot of us are just eating regular foods lol no protein shakes are invovled

u forgot the 4 whole eggs.

[chachie]

GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!!!!!!!! :yipee:applaud:agree

:keke thanks!


:werdsign ... but if i go 2 sleep any later ill b awake when every1 else is gettin ready for work lol.. im usually in bed by 1 but watch tv till like 3-4.. its terrible..

i used to be like this too....up until 5am everynight/morning but not for a few years now lol
im usually out by 11-12am, sometimes 1ish

[chachie]

u forgot the 4 whole eggs.

thats a regular food to me lol

[igor]

what i'am saying is, if you dont want to eat past a certain time. then control the timing of your meals (wake up earlier). everyone is different but the main point is, keep your metabolism going. never let it slow down. of course if you eat a large bowl of pasta before bed it will just store as fat. small portions is key.

[chachie]

of course if you eat a large bowl of pasta before bed it will just store as fat.

lol exactly

[igor]

well i hope no one on a serious diet would even think of eating a whole bowl of pasta before bed....just wouldnt make any sense.

[chachie]

i also count my calories everyday... i write down what i ate, what time i ate it and how many cals/carbs it has....i also use a calorie counter on the comp :agree i have myself on a 1200-1500 cals a day type of thing, sometimes i dont even make it up to 1200 though. i also eat every 2-3 hours

[igor]

i also count my calories everyday... i write down what i ate, what time i ate it and how many cals/carbs it has....i also use a calorie counter on the comp :agree i have myself on a 1200-1500 cals a day type of thing, sometimes i dont even make it up to 1200 though. i also eat every 2-3 hours

see, your on the right track. what does your diet look like?

[chachie]

see, your on the right track. what does your diet look like?

ehh its kinda all over the place lol
for example, today i had: (all small portions) some whole wheat pasta w/ a lil vodka sauce, 1/2 a peanutbutter sandwhich on light rye bread, some chicken soup and a TINY bit more of the vodka sauce/whole wheat penne....and ill be getting hungry again soon i can feel it lol but i also drink wine basically everynight so i gotta count that in also.

[igor]

ehh its kinda all over the place lol
for example, today i had: (all small portions) some whole wheat pasta w/ a lil vodka sauce, 1/2 a peanutbutter sandwhich on light rye bread, some chicken soup and a TINY bit more of the vodka sauce/whole wheat penne....and ill be getting hungry again soon i can feel it lol but i also drink wine basically everynight so i gotta count that in also.

chicken soup = sodium soup
u have absolutely no protein in your diet other than the peanutbutter and chicken soup...if there was any chicken in there lol

[chachie]

chicken soup = sodium soup
u have absolutely no protein in your diet other than the peanutbutter and chicken soup...if there was any chicken in there lol

of course there was chicken in there! LOL :cookoo it was moms homemade :heart
and that was just what i ate today....i eat steak a lot too and grilled chicken and brussel sprouts, etc... lol my diet varies pretty much everyday
and im gonna say it again....I DID 8 MILES ON THE BIKE TODAY! just incase anyone missed it :keke

[igor]

of course there was chicken in there! LOL :cookoo it was moms homemade :heart
and that was just what i ate today....i eat steak a lot too and grilled chicken and brussel sprouts, etc... lol my diet varies pretty much everyday
and im gonna say it again....I DID 8 MILES ON THE BIKE TODAY! just incase anyone missed it :keke

haha i did miss the 8 miles part. GOOD JOB! :agree. keep the diet consistent. takes your body about 2 weeks to be accustomed to a diet.

[chachie]

haha i did miss the 8 miles part. GOOD JOB! :agree. keep the diet consistent. takes your body about 2 weeks to be accustomed to a diet.

oh, im trying lol and i havent gotten on a scale in like a week almost....meanwhile i would weigh myself everyday which isnt good, i've figured that out lol a few more days and ill hop on

[igor]

go by mirror more often than scale. just gotta work hard and keep everything in check. u can do it girl! :agree

[chachie]

:rockon

[chachie]

i used to be like this too....up until 5am everynight/morning but not for a few years now lol
im usually out by 11-12am, sometimes 1ish

its AWESOME when i jinx myself! ughhhhhhhhhh :shuffle

[MarkC]

its AWESOME when i jinx myself! ughhhhhhhhhh :shuffle
lol, get some sleep soldier:agree:lostit

[JerZgirL]

i have a question for u all.. u no how ur not suppose 2 eat after a cirtain time.. ive heard 6 ive heard 8 ive heard 9... i dont have a normal schedual.. i work 1-9 so im always up late n i wake up later then the norm... wats the avg amount of time u need between ur last meal and bed... bc thats what i am always confused about


The whole purpose of not eating after a certain time is because while you sleep, your metabolism slows down. If you get off work @ 9 & usually have dinner @ 9:30 but you don't go to bed until 1 or 2, it's fine. But for someone like me, I have to be in bed by 10 or I won't get up @4. All I eat before bed is a protein shake.

[JerZgirL]

and what? noone rewards me for doing 8 miles today?! :snobbish

:yipee I'm so proud of you!!!!! 8 miles!!!!!! GOod for you:):boop

[igor]

you get up at 4am everyday??? ouch lol. i feel like a lazy bum now since i dont get up till 9 :agree

[JerZgirL]

you get up at 4am everyday??? ouch lol. i feel like a lazy bum now since i dont get up till 9 :agree

I have to be at work @8 & I try to do cardio before work, so I have no choice. BUt this week I'm getting up later cuz I'm just resting & going slow. Only 1 hour of cardio every day. Next week, it's war again.

[igor]

how much cardio do u do on a regular day? i hate waking up early just to drive to the gym to get cardio in. need to buy myself a treadmill. my friend bought one and does his cardio at home, lucky fuck llol.

[JerZgirL]

During training, I think about 2 hrs. If i had spin or my dance class, I still would go do another hour of cardio after that. Once I hit my goal weight, I think im gonna slow it down to just an hour a day...

[TEMPERAMENTAL]

how much cardio do u do on a regular day? i hate waking up early just to drive to the gym to get cardio in. need to buy myself a treadmill. my friend bought one and does his cardio at home, lucky fuck llol.
this is the ONLY way I'm able to force myself to do cardio in the morning, there is no excuse not to
I would never make it to the gym :chuckle

[igor]

During training, I think about 2 hrs. If i had spin or my dance class, I still would go do another hour of cardio after that. Once I hit my goal weight, I think im gonna slow it down to just an hour a day...

2 hours huh? thats exactly how much i do everyday when prepping for a contest but only for 5 weeks out. it gets boring on that treadmill lol

[igor]

this is the ONLY way I'm able to force myself to do cardio in the morning, there is no excuse not to
I would never make it to the gym :chuckle

need to find cheap reliable treadmills online! my friend paid almost 2g's for his. no wayyy am i payin that.

[LUV2LUVME]

need to find cheap reliable treadmills online! my friend paid almost 2g's for his. no wayyy am i payin that.


I got my treadmill from Modells ... it's the Horizon T81 ... got it on sale for $600 .. I love it, haven't had any problems with it so far

[JerZgirL]

2 hours huh? thats exactly how much i do everyday when prepping for a contest but only for 5 weeks out. it gets boring on that treadmill lol

Thank god for ipod.... A few weeks before comp, I tried running outside & it wasnt too bad. Might try it again this weekend

[kroms]

i hate running outside...but i hate the treadmill even more...

[chachie]

:yipee I'm so proud of you!!!!! 8 miles!!!!!! GOod for you:):boop

yea, i felt like forest gump when he ran for 3 years haha
"i already went this far, might as well keep goin..." lol
and thanks :heart

[chachie]

lol, get some sleep soldier:agree:lostit

the do is done lol

[chachie]

need to buy myself a treadmill.

thats what i wanna do too :agree

[kroms]

yea, i felt like forest gump when he ran for 3 years haha
"i already went this far, might as well keep goin..." lol
and thanks :heart

you were just watching that werent you lol

[chachie]

you were just watching that werent you lol

haha nah, a few days ago i was though :agree

[kroms]

haha nah, a few days ago i was though :agree

oh ok...it was just on now!!(well when before was now lol)

[chachie]

oh ok...it was just on now!!(well when before was now lol)

LOL...no shit! thats funny

[Just Paul T.]

I was gonna pm, but i'll post in case anyone else is interested....

Yes, peanut butter is a great source of protein. So are egg whites. You can buy them already separated if you don't want to do it yourself. Actually, that grocery list that Deeper posted a while back is a great resource to go by. Also, I advise you to get some Whey Protein Isolate. It is a must for me. This is what I was eating, because i find it easier to prepare my meals in advance & stick to the same foods. By all means, mix it up, but stick to the basic guidelines. I eat every 2 1/2 hours, but you can streach to 3 to 4. The basic idea is just to keep the insulin levels steady & the metabolism up. I can compare it to adding wood to keep a fire burning. SO here goes:

Breakfast
3 egg whites
1/2 cup or 1 envelope of plain oatmeal
a piece/ serving of fruit

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake- (mixed with water)

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 breast grilled chicken
1/2 cup brown rice

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 chicken breast grilled or beef
1 cup veggies

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake


From this point on, i would just drink a shake if I got hungry or eat a plain rice cake with some peanut butter. Try not to eat after 6 pm, only a shake if you get hungry.

Like I said, it might sound a little extreme, but everyone's different, so make it fit your body. Like if you find you're still hungry, add more veggies, etc. You get the idea. I've lost weight a few times in my life, & i found that I need a structured diet like this to keep me in line. & like I said before, feel free to swap out foods with things you like. If you don't like chicken, eat beef.

It's kind of hard at first, but trust me, it's worth it. :heart




where are ur workout(s) between these meals ?

[kroms]

I know to east more often but like i said.. is there a cirtain time btwn last mean n sleep that i should know about... like i would imagine eating n then 1/2 an hour sleepin isnt the best thing for 1 to do

a good rule to stick by is stay away form carbs 3 hours before sleep...if you go to bed at 10 pm none after 7pm, if you goto bed at 2am none after 11pm etc....its a good idea to have some protein before bed though...that will keep your metabolism going for a period while you are sleeping...

if you dont eat after 6pm...wake up for breakfast at 7am, thats 13 hours with no food more than half a day which is no good..

this might have been answered in here already but thats my .02 anyway

[Chris]

a good rule to stick by is stay away form carbs 3 hours before sleep...if you go to bed at 10 pm none after 7pm, if you goto bed at 2am none after 11pm etc....its a good idea to have some protein before bed though...that will keep your metabolism going for a period while you are sleeping...

if you dont eat after 6pm...wake up for breakfast at 7am, thats 13 hours with no food more than half a day which is no good..

this might have been answered in here already but thats my .02 anyway

def agreed. heres a side note some people pound the pro right before they lay down, i find it actually keeps me up so i would suggest like 45 mins before you goto lay down.

good points tho kroms.

[JerZgirL]

where are ur workout(s) between these meals ?

Well during the last month of training, I was doing 2 days of weights & 2 hours of cardio 7 days a week. I kept my leg workout pretty basic- squats, walking lunges, deadlifts, calf raises, hamstring curls, leg extensions, abductors & adductors. I also was taking kickboxing, spin & dance classes in addition to my treadmill workouts. Upperbody workout i don't remember too well, but it's in my notebook.

[chachie]

I was gonna pm, but i'll post in case anyone else is interested....

Yes, peanut butter is a great source of protein. So are egg whites. You can buy them already separated if you don't want to do it yourself. Actually, that grocery list that Deeper posted a while back is a great resource to go by. Also, I advise you to get some Whey Protein Isolate. It is a must for me. This is what I was eating, because i find it easier to prepare my meals in advance & stick to the same foods. By all means, mix it up, but stick to the basic guidelines. I eat every 2 1/2 hours, but you can streach to 3 to 4. The basic idea is just to keep the insulin levels steady & the metabolism up. I can compare it to adding wood to keep a fire burning. SO here goes:

Breakfast
3 egg whites
1/2 cup or 1 envelope of plain oatmeal
a piece/ serving of fruit

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake- (mixed with water)

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 breast grilled chicken
1/2 cup brown rice

(2 1/2 hrs)

1/2 chicken breast grilled or beef
1 cup veggies

(2 1/2 hrs)

protein shake


From this point on, i would just drink a shake if I got hungry or eat a plain rice cake with some peanut butter. Try not to eat after 6 pm, only a shake if you get hungry.

Like I said, it might sound a little extreme, but everyone's different, so make it fit your body. Like if you find you're still hungry, add more veggies, etc. You get the idea. I've lost weight a few times in my life, & i found that I need a structured diet like this to keep me in line. & like I said before, feel free to swap out foods with things you like. If you don't like chicken, eat beef.

It's kind of hard at first, but trust me, it's worth it. :heart

this diet plan should be made a sticky :agree (if its not already...i havent looked)

[Misschievous]

i try to run at least once a day in the morning, and sometimes after i get out of work