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jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 12:30 AM
Yeah he not a socialist huh?



GM CEO resigns at Obama's behest
By MIKE ALLEN & JOSH GERSTEIN | 3/29/09 5:23 PM EDT Updated: 3/29/09 7:53 PM EDT Text Size:


The White House confirms Wagoner is leaving at the government's behest.Photo: AP


The Obama administration asked Rick Wagoner, the chairman and CEO of General Motors, to step down and he agreed, a White House official said.

On Monday, President Barack Obama is to unveil his plans for the auto industry, including a response to a request for additional funds by GM and Chrysler. The plan is based on recommendations from the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry, headed by the Treasury Department.

The White House confirmed Wagoner was leaving at the government's behest after The Associated Press reported his immediate departure, without giving a reason.

General Motors issued a vague statement Sunday night that did not officially confirm Wagoner's departure.

"We are anticipating an announcement soon from the Administration regarding the restructuring of the U.S. auto industry. We continue to work closely with members of the Task Force and it would not be appropriate for us to speculate on the content of any announcement," the company said.

The surprise announcement about the classically iconic American corporation is perhaps the most vivid sign yet of the tectonic change in the relationship between business and government in this era of subsidies and bailouts.

Wagoner has been CEO for 8 years and at GM for more than 30. It is not yet clear who would replace him, or what role the administration would play in that process.

Industry sources had said the White House planned very tough medicine in Monday's announcement, which turned out to be an understatement. And it went to the very top. The measures to be imposed by the government will have a dramatic effect on workers, unions, suppliers, bondholders, shareholders, retirees and the communities where plants are located, the sources said.

GM and Chrysler first requested billions in federal aid in November, warning that they could run out of cash in a matter of months if they didn't receive it. In December, President Bush agreed to loan $9.4 billion to GM and $4 billion to Chrysler.



Earlier this month, Obama agreed to loan $5 billion to American auto parts manufacturers to help them weather the steep drop in new vehicle orders and the financial uncertainty at the Big Three.

Obama and his aides may have honed in on Wagoner for two reasons. First, his company is asking for the most in total federal aid: $26 billion, a figure administration officials fear could grow even larger. Second, the GM chief was tied more directly to the ill-fated decisions that that brought much of the American auto industry to the brink of collapse. Wagoner joined GM in 1977, has had a senior role in GM management since 1992, and became CEO of the company in 2000. He is considered responsible for increasing GM's focus on trucks and SUVs—at the expense of the hybrids and fuel efficient cars that have become more popular in the last couple of years.

By contrast, Chrysler CEO Robert Nardelli, whose resignation does not seem to have been demanded as a price of further federal aid, was a newcomer to the auto industry when he was lured to that company to help turn it around. Nardelli had previously headed Home Depot.

Government officials have little reason to tilt at Ford CEO Alan Mulally since his firm has not actually taken bailout funds from the government. Ford asked for a $9 billion line of credit from the feds, but the firm has said it has no plans to tap the credit facility.

Obama's move against Wagoner hearkens back to September 2008 when President Bush's Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson, insisted that AIG CEO Robert Willumstad step down as part of an $85 billion bailout of the insurance giant. Paulson installed in his place Edward Liddy, a former Allstate executive. The AIG bailout has since grown to about $170 billion and Liddy has faced calls for his resignation in the wake of reports about hundreds of millions of dollars-worth of bonuses the firm agreed to pay to employees.

Obama said Friday in an interview with CBS’s “Face the Nation,” broadcast Sunday, that the carmakers were going to have to do more.

“There's been some serious efforts to deal with a combination of long-standing problems in the auto industry,” the president told host Bob Schieffer. “What we're trying to let them know is that we want to have a successful auto industry, U.S. auto industry. We think we can have a successful U.S. auto industry. But it's got to be one that's realistically designed to weather this storm and to emerge at the other end much more lean, mean and competitive than it currently is.

“And that's gonna mean a set of sacrifices from all parties involved — management, labor, shareholders, creditors, suppliers, dealers. Everybody's gonna have to come to the table and say it's important for us to take serious restructuring steps now in order to preserve a brighter future down the road."

Schieffer followed up: “But they're not there yet.”

Obama added: “They're not there yet.”

The Obama administration calls its task force “a cabinet-level group that includes the secretaries of Transportation, Commerce, Labor and Energy. It will also include the chairman of the President’s Council of Economic Advisers, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, the EPA administrator, and the director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change. The Task Force will be led by Treasury Secretary [Tim] Geithner and [National Economic Council] Director Larry Summers.”

The panel’s chief adviser is Steven Rattner, a well-known investment banker and former New York Times reporter.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20625_Page2.html

Special k89
03-30-2009, 12:45 AM
let me ask u an honest question. Do u really think making 20 threads per week about obama will change the world's perception of him? and do u really believe anyone cares?

TrippinFace101
03-30-2009, 12:51 AM
But AIG can ask for 1000000000000000000000 billion and that ceo can stay

jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 08:15 AM
let me ask u an honest question. Do u really think making 20 threads per week about obama will change the world's perception of him? and do u really believe anyone cares?

of course people do or you would not have took the time to respond .. i would say alot of people care..

ShaE
03-30-2009, 10:28 AM
time to respond, a matter of seconds, not exactly all that pertinent jamez.

obama could sneeze at this point and you go SEE I TOLD YOU HE'S STALIN!

jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 10:38 AM
time to respond, a matter of seconds, not exactly all that pertinent jamez.

obama could sneeze at this point and you go SEE I TOLD YOU HE'S STALIN!

matter of seconds or not .. it get views and responses ..and yes he is a bigtime socialist

Rover
03-30-2009, 10:53 AM
obama has been talking about how outdated the big carmaker model has been for quite some time..and with the Gov pumping in $ to help them..he has a right to ask the CEO to step down, the model is flawed..and its time for a change.

as for AIG keeping their CEO...their CEO isnt responsible for decades of neglect and horrible planning..he hasnt even been a CEO for year so thats comparing apples to oranges. seriously get off Obamas dick..this guy cant take a piss w/o someone labeling him a socialist..its getting pathetic

jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 11:15 AM
obama has been talking about how outdated the big carmaker model has been for quite some time..and with the Gov pumping in $ to help them..he has a right to ask the CEO to step down, the model is flawed..and its time for a change.

as for AIG keeping their CEO...their CEO isnt responsible for decades of neglect and horrible planning..he hasnt even been a CEO for year so thats comparing apples to oranges. seriously get off Obamas dick..this guy cant take a piss w/o someone labeling him a socialist..its getting pathetic

well Obama helping his critics bigtime ..

digital kemical
03-30-2009, 11:49 AM
But AIG can ask for 1000000000000000000000 billion and that ceo can stay

right?

what about all the workers who get laid off?

but we dump BILLIONS into banks because they are to big to fail, but dont give a shit about regular peoples jobs

JenniFa
03-30-2009, 12:22 PM
let me ask u an honest question. Do u really think making 20 threads per week about obama will change the world's perception of him? and do u really believe anyone cares?

its really annoying to the point where i dont even open that many threads anymore. This one seemed interesting tho.. but every single thread.. OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

there is OTHER news out there

jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 12:39 PM
its really annoying to the point where i dont even open that many threads anymore. This one seemed interesting tho.. but every single thread.. OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

there is OTHER news out there

your welcome to post about it instead of bitchin ..

James Maxx
03-30-2009, 01:26 PM
Good riddens to him hes the one who decided to sell SUVs and trucks instead of smaller hybrids. He was ignorant and screwed over GM.

Benny B
03-30-2009, 01:30 PM
Good riddens to him hes the one who decided to sell SUVs and trucks instead of smaller hybrids. He was ignorant and screwed over GM.

ummm helllloooo earth to james... that was NOT a bad decision.. the leasing is what killed them.. sure they had a huge inventory of trucks not selling but you have to realize it was smart for them to not sell a hybrid.. BECAUSE THERE IS NOT MUCH OF A MARKET FOR IT! when the market demands it then it would be good time to come out and sell one. not just because the government is trying to force it upon us.

leasing absolutely killed some of these companies because of the resale value of the trucks.. they arrange the payments based upon resale value.. so when gas was soo high and no trucks was selling the prices of trucks had to be dropped therefore making it so that they didnt charge enough on the front end of the lease.. and then when selling it.. would take a major loss on it

jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 01:30 PM
Good riddens to him hes the one who decided to sell SUVs and trucks instead of smaller hybrids. He was ignorant and screwed over GM.

yeah cause hybrids were selling like hotcakes lol ..how many ppl you know drive them?

Gspot555
03-30-2009, 02:09 PM
ummm helllloooo earth to james... that was NOT a bad decision.. the leasing is what killed them.. sure they had a huge inventory of trucks not selling but you have to realize it was smart for them to not sell a hybrid.. BECAUSE THERE IS NOT MUCH OF A MARKET FOR IT! when the market demands it then it would be good time to come out and sell one. not just because the government is trying to force it upon us.

leasing absolutely killed some of these companies because of the resale value of the trucks.. they arrange the payments based upon resale value.. so when gas was soo high and no trucks was selling the prices of trucks had to be dropped therefore making it so that they didnt charge enough on the front end of the lease.. and then when selling it.. would take a major loss on it

yeah but its also the legacy costs that are killing GM

Benny B
03-30-2009, 02:19 PM
yeah but its also the legacy costs that are killing GM

absolutely and i absolutely agree the legacy costs are killing them.. trust me.. Nissan is one of my biggest accounts for my company. i see how things are done.

i have said time and time again that unions are killing these companies.. when they wont even concede to giving up money or benefits that they strong armed out of ford gm and all them how can you expect to do any better..but again.. you going after the ceo of gm.. why not go after the unions who are killing these companies.. ohh yeah because they helped obama get elected.. right?

Gspot555
03-30-2009, 02:41 PM
absolutely and i absolutely agree the legacy costs are killing them.. trust me.. Nissan is one of my biggest accounts for my company. i see how things are done.

i have said time and time again that unions are killing these companies.. when they wont even concede to giving up money or benefits that they strong armed out of ford gm and all them how can you expect to do any better..but again.. you going after the ceo of gm.. why not go after the unions who are killing these companies.. ohh yeah because they helped obama get elected.. right?

i dont understand why the unions are not getting more shit...they should be...they would rather lose their job then concede a little...well i read something that if they get injured or something, they get 96% of their salary and get to sit in a room and do nothing...its pretty crazy...and to begin a lot of them are overpaid to begin with...

jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 02:43 PM
And the Unions own the democrat party .. with them controlling all 3 branches dont expect it to get any better

JenniFa
03-30-2009, 02:53 PM
your welcome to post about it instead of bitchin ..

no i'd rather bitch for now... remember im aloud to - im on BED REST dammit until this kid comes out :heart:yousuck

jameznyhc
03-30-2009, 02:59 PM
no i'd rather bitch for now... remember im aloud to - im on BED REST dammit until this kid comes out :heart:yousuck

thanks for the guilt trip:booted.. ok bitch all ya want

JenniFa
03-30-2009, 03:23 PM
thanks for the guilt trip:booted.. ok bitch all ya want

LMFAO!!!! :yipee

ShaE
03-31-2009, 10:25 AM
matter of seconds or not .. it get views and responses ..and yes he is a bigtime socialist
you're missing a slight, minute aspect of stalin, far more prominent than socialism, the man was a genocidal beast.

only you would compare obama to a man that slaughtered millions of his own people :wallbang

metfan85
03-31-2009, 01:21 PM
you're missing a slight, minute aspect of stalin, far more prominent than socialism, the man was a genocidal beast.

only you would compare obama to a man that slaughtered millions of his own people :wallbang

You're right he's no Stalin, more like a Woodrow Wilson type.

Obviously in 4 years you can't accomplish all that Stalin did in 30, but so far he's on a good pace and he could definitely make Wilson proud killing civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq in the name of "democracy".