jameznyhc
04-10-2009, 10:46 AM
But wait Obama said he was ending the war.. he said the central fight on terror is afghanistan/pakistan .. he Iraq was the WRONG and STUPID war.. he wanted to end it in 2004.. and now were hearing the deadline may not be met because of al qaeda??? ... now what are you Obama supporters thinking?? id love to know..he promised all troops out in 18 months that would be June 2010 ... lol as of now they are there until 2011 .. then after 2011 he leaving an additional 50,000 for security.. damn son damn does this man never stop lying? or breaking promises ..
President Barack Obama is seeking $83.4 billion for US military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, pressing for special troop funding that he opposed two years ago when he was a senator and George W. Bush was President. Mr Obama’s request, including money to send thousands more troops into Afghanistan, would push the costs of the two wars to almost $1 trillion since the September 11, 2001, terror attacks against the US, according to the Congressional Research Service. :hmmm:hmmm
General Ray Odierno: we may miss Iraq deadline to halt al-Qaeda terror
(Karim Kadim/AP)
President Obama has pledged to withdraw all combat forces from Iraq by August 2010
Image :1 of 2
Deborah Haynes in Baghdad
The activities of al-Qaeda in two of Iraq’s most troubled cities could keep US combat troops engaged beyond the June 30 deadline for their withdrawal, the top US commander in the country has warned.
US troop numbers in Mosul and Baqubah, in the north of the country, could rise rather than fall over the next year if necessary, General Ray Odierno told The Times in his first interview with a British newspaper since taking over from General David Petraeus in September.
He said that a joint assessment would be conducted with the Iraqi authorities in the coming weeks before a decision is made.
Combat troops are due to leave all Iraqi cities by the end of June. Any delay would be a potential setback for President Obama, who has pledged to withdraw all combat forces from Iraq by August 2010 as he switches his focus to Afghanistan.
The ultimate decision on keeping or withdrawing troops would be taken by Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi Prime Minister, handing him a big dilemma, given the desire by most Iraqis for the US military to leave the country.
Tens of thousands of supporters of Moqtada al-Sadr, the antiAmerican Shia cleric, marched through Baghdad yesterday, the sixth anniversary of the fall of the capital, to demand the withdrawal of US forces.
General Odierno, 54, said that he was also concerned about the risk of renewed conflict between Arabs and Kurds in northern Iraq, where tensions are rising over the ownership of territory. He also cited the “very dangerous” threat posed by Iranian-funded militants, who appear to be styling themselves on Lebanon’s Hezbollah.
General Odierno, a bald, imposing 6ft 5in, was speaking as he sat outside the back of the Saddam-era mansion that he calls home, next to a man-made lake on a military base in Baghdad. Touching on a range of issues, he said that he was not worried by a recent spate of deadly bombings against Shia targets blamed on al-Qaeda. He said they were designed to coincide with key dates such as the anniversary of Baghdad’s fall and rejected the idea that they signalled a fresh round of sectarian war.
The general has long experience of Iraq: he arrived in April 2003, after the invasion, and led the US division that was ultimately responsible for capturing Saddam Hussein; he was No 2 to General Petraeus in 2007; and is now on his third tour in charge of the American withdrawal.
Under an agreement between Washington and Baghdad, all 140,000 US troops must be out by the end of 2011.
Despite the rise in the number of attacks, overall violence is still far below levels of two years ago when the surge of an extra 30,000 US forces – a strategy created and implemented by General Odierno and his boss, General Petraeus – was just getting started. That risk paid off, subduing a civil war that was killing thousands of Iraqi civilians and scores of American soldiers every month.
General Odierno said that his darkest days in Iraq were when he was in charge of day-to-day combat operations in 2007. During that 15-month tour he signed hundreds of letters of condolence to the parents of service-men and women from the US, Britain and other coalition countries. “I always felt [the surge] would [succeed] but those were the times when you were wondering whether this will work or not,” he said.
The war touched him more than most commanders. “The toughest day was the day I got called that my son was injured over here,” he said. Tony Odierno, then an army lieutenant, lost an arm in a rocket attack in 2004.
The US commander was confident that the overall timetable for the US pullout would be met. But he added that US combat troops might have to stay beyond June 30 in Mosul and Baqubah, where al-Qaeda retains an active presence. “The two areas I am concerned with are Mosul and then Baqubah and [other] parts of Diyala province,” he said. “We will conduct assessments and provide our assessments when the time is right.”
He added that over the next 12 months “we won’t see a large reduction in any forces in Mosul or Diyala. In fact we might see reinforcements in those areas if we continue to have issues”. Another flashpoint is the ethnically divided city of Kirkuk, on the border of Iraqi Kurdistan, where Arabs and Kurds are at loggerheads. Provincial elections were delayed there because of a disagreement over ownership of the city, a row that also covers towns and villages scattered along the border.
The general agreed that there was a risk of conflict in those areas. “We can’t allow politics, we can’t allow pride, we can’t allow ego to cause violence to occur when you can solve a problem with dialogue.”
He said that he was also keeping an eye on Iranian-backed Shia militants who are fewer in number compared with two years ago but restructuring into groups with a political and military wing, similar to Hezbollah.
A MILITARY LEADER WHO COMMANDS RESPECT
“One of the most effective military leaders of his generation”
Defence Secretary Robert Gates, speaking in February 2008
“He went through a complete metamorphosis. He educated himself and became the preeminent operational commander we have in conducting irregular warfare”
Retired General Jack Keane, who worked closely with General Odierno on the surge
“He really just wanted to play football, serve his five years and get out of the army. But he hurt his knee and never got the chance”
Linda Odierno, his wife, in an interview with the Baltimore Sun
“I appreciate the fact that you really snatched defeat out of the jaws of those who were trying to defeat us in Iraq”
George W. Bush, thanking General Odierno in March 2008
Source: Times database
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article6069734.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2
President Barack Obama is seeking $83.4 billion for US military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, pressing for special troop funding that he opposed two years ago when he was a senator and George W. Bush was President. Mr Obama’s request, including money to send thousands more troops into Afghanistan, would push the costs of the two wars to almost $1 trillion since the September 11, 2001, terror attacks against the US, according to the Congressional Research Service. :hmmm:hmmm
General Ray Odierno: we may miss Iraq deadline to halt al-Qaeda terror
(Karim Kadim/AP)
President Obama has pledged to withdraw all combat forces from Iraq by August 2010
Image :1 of 2
Deborah Haynes in Baghdad
The activities of al-Qaeda in two of Iraq’s most troubled cities could keep US combat troops engaged beyond the June 30 deadline for their withdrawal, the top US commander in the country has warned.
US troop numbers in Mosul and Baqubah, in the north of the country, could rise rather than fall over the next year if necessary, General Ray Odierno told The Times in his first interview with a British newspaper since taking over from General David Petraeus in September.
He said that a joint assessment would be conducted with the Iraqi authorities in the coming weeks before a decision is made.
Combat troops are due to leave all Iraqi cities by the end of June. Any delay would be a potential setback for President Obama, who has pledged to withdraw all combat forces from Iraq by August 2010 as he switches his focus to Afghanistan.
The ultimate decision on keeping or withdrawing troops would be taken by Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi Prime Minister, handing him a big dilemma, given the desire by most Iraqis for the US military to leave the country.
Tens of thousands of supporters of Moqtada al-Sadr, the antiAmerican Shia cleric, marched through Baghdad yesterday, the sixth anniversary of the fall of the capital, to demand the withdrawal of US forces.
General Odierno, 54, said that he was also concerned about the risk of renewed conflict between Arabs and Kurds in northern Iraq, where tensions are rising over the ownership of territory. He also cited the “very dangerous” threat posed by Iranian-funded militants, who appear to be styling themselves on Lebanon’s Hezbollah.
General Odierno, a bald, imposing 6ft 5in, was speaking as he sat outside the back of the Saddam-era mansion that he calls home, next to a man-made lake on a military base in Baghdad. Touching on a range of issues, he said that he was not worried by a recent spate of deadly bombings against Shia targets blamed on al-Qaeda. He said they were designed to coincide with key dates such as the anniversary of Baghdad’s fall and rejected the idea that they signalled a fresh round of sectarian war.
The general has long experience of Iraq: he arrived in April 2003, after the invasion, and led the US division that was ultimately responsible for capturing Saddam Hussein; he was No 2 to General Petraeus in 2007; and is now on his third tour in charge of the American withdrawal.
Under an agreement between Washington and Baghdad, all 140,000 US troops must be out by the end of 2011.
Despite the rise in the number of attacks, overall violence is still far below levels of two years ago when the surge of an extra 30,000 US forces – a strategy created and implemented by General Odierno and his boss, General Petraeus – was just getting started. That risk paid off, subduing a civil war that was killing thousands of Iraqi civilians and scores of American soldiers every month.
General Odierno said that his darkest days in Iraq were when he was in charge of day-to-day combat operations in 2007. During that 15-month tour he signed hundreds of letters of condolence to the parents of service-men and women from the US, Britain and other coalition countries. “I always felt [the surge] would [succeed] but those were the times when you were wondering whether this will work or not,” he said.
The war touched him more than most commanders. “The toughest day was the day I got called that my son was injured over here,” he said. Tony Odierno, then an army lieutenant, lost an arm in a rocket attack in 2004.
The US commander was confident that the overall timetable for the US pullout would be met. But he added that US combat troops might have to stay beyond June 30 in Mosul and Baqubah, where al-Qaeda retains an active presence. “The two areas I am concerned with are Mosul and then Baqubah and [other] parts of Diyala province,” he said. “We will conduct assessments and provide our assessments when the time is right.”
He added that over the next 12 months “we won’t see a large reduction in any forces in Mosul or Diyala. In fact we might see reinforcements in those areas if we continue to have issues”. Another flashpoint is the ethnically divided city of Kirkuk, on the border of Iraqi Kurdistan, where Arabs and Kurds are at loggerheads. Provincial elections were delayed there because of a disagreement over ownership of the city, a row that also covers towns and villages scattered along the border.
The general agreed that there was a risk of conflict in those areas. “We can’t allow politics, we can’t allow pride, we can’t allow ego to cause violence to occur when you can solve a problem with dialogue.”
He said that he was also keeping an eye on Iranian-backed Shia militants who are fewer in number compared with two years ago but restructuring into groups with a political and military wing, similar to Hezbollah.
A MILITARY LEADER WHO COMMANDS RESPECT
“One of the most effective military leaders of his generation”
Defence Secretary Robert Gates, speaking in February 2008
“He went through a complete metamorphosis. He educated himself and became the preeminent operational commander we have in conducting irregular warfare”
Retired General Jack Keane, who worked closely with General Odierno on the surge
“He really just wanted to play football, serve his five years and get out of the army. But he hurt his knee and never got the chance”
Linda Odierno, his wife, in an interview with the Baltimore Sun
“I appreciate the fact that you really snatched defeat out of the jaws of those who were trying to defeat us in Iraq”
George W. Bush, thanking General Odierno in March 2008
Source: Times database
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article6069734.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2