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04-14-2009, 11:43 AM
Obama Lifts Broad Set Of Sanctions Against Cuba
Barriers for U.S. Relatives And Telecoms Struck Down

By Michael D. Shear and Cecilia Kang
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, April 14, 2009; A01



President Obama yesterday announced a series of steps aimed at easing the U.S. relationship with Cuba, breaking from policies first imposed by the Kennedy administration and stepping into an emotional debate over the best way to bring democratic change to one of the last remaining communist regimes.

White House officials said the decision to lift travel and spending restrictions on Americans with family on the island will provide new support for the opponents of Raśl and Fidel Castro's government. And they said lifting the ban on U.S. telecommunications companies reaching out to the island will flood Cuba with information while providing new opportunities for businesses.

Obama left in place the broad trade embargo imposed on Cuba in 1962. But just days before leaving to attend a summit with the leaders of South and Central America, he reversed restrictions that barred U.S. citizens from visiting their Cuban relatives more than once every three years and lifted limits on the amount of money and goods Cuban Americans can send back to their families.

He also cleared away virtually all U.S. regulations that had stopped American companies from attempting to bring their high-tech services and information to the island.

"All who embrace core democratic values long for a Cuba that respects the basic human, political and economic rights of all of its citizens," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said yesterday in announcing the new Cuba policy. "President Obama believes the measure he has taken today will help make that goal a reality."

Under the new rules, officials say, there is likely to be an explosion of new charter flights to the island, and direct commercial flights could follow. Gifts and money will flow freely from U.S. relatives for the first time. And the announcement could open the door for the American information revolution to enter the island nation -- in the form of Howard Stern on Sirius radio, iPhones and Wikipedia.

The moves were hailed by many advocates of greater openness toward the regime, including the business community, which sees new opportunities for commerce. But they were immediately criticized by those on the right and the left who said they went either too far or not far enough.

Reps. Lincoln and Mario Diaz-Balart, brothers and Florida Republicans who are from Cuba, issued a joint statement calling the action a "serious mistake" that represents a concession to a repressive regime. They said the money flowing into Cuba would reach communist leaders, not the people.

"President Obama has violated his pledge of January 20 by unilaterally granting a concession to the dictatorship which will provide it with hundreds of millions of dollars annually," their statement said. "Unilateral concessions to the dictatorship embolden it to further isolate, imprison and brutalize pro-democracy activists."

On the other side of the issue, Carlos Pascual, director of foreign policy at the Brookings Institution, praised the policy shift as a good first step that recognizes what he called 50 years of failed policy toward Cuba.

But Pascual, who was born in Cuba and came to the United States at age 3, said democratic change in the country will not come until the U.S. trade embargo is lifted. Most nations now have diplomatic relations with Cuba, leaving the United States virtually alone in its attempts to enforce the embargo.

"It isn't enough," said Pascual, who has been mentioned as a possible candidate to be U.S. ambassador to Mexico. "In and of itself, it's not going to produce a radical change in Cuba. But it's a recognition that a change is necessary."

White House officials cast the policy shift as the beginning of a change in direction that Obama signaled when he was a candidate. During the campaign, Obama promised to ease travel restrictions and said he was open to dialogue with the Castro regime without "preconditions."

Gibbs said the ball is now in Cuba's court.

"The president has made clear that he is willing to talk to our adversaries," Gibbs said, adding: "I do think there are steps that we would -- that the Cuban government can and must take."

There are some indications the Cuban leaders are ready to do that. Last week, a delegation from the Congressional Black Caucus visited Cuba and met face to face with Fidel Castro, spending 1 1/2 hours with him at his home.

According to Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), one of the three delegation members, Castro told them Cuba is open to talks with the Obama administration "without preconditions." In an online column before the meeting, Castro wrote that "we are not afraid of dialogue with the United States," adding: "That is the only way to achieve friendship and peace between peoples."

The Obama administration had telegraphed for weeks that the travel and money restrictions would be lifted. But the new rules for telecommunications firms were a surprise and sent stock prices of several companies higher in trading yesterday.

The changes do not alter the Cuban government's long-standing efforts to hinder foreign companies operating on the island. But U.S. firms will no longer face American restrictions against building underwater fiber pipes or beaming satellite signals to Cuba. Satellite radio and television operators can now try to bring their content to residents there. And cellphone operators will be able to pursue partnerships with Cuba's local network operators for roaming contracts so U.S. customers can use their phones while on the island.

The changes will challenge the nation's monopoly telecommunications service provider from Venezuela, analysts said.

"Once you begin getting the system in and begin moving bits there, lots of things become possible that weren't before," said Steven Clemons, director of the foreign policy program at the New America Foundation.

Industry giants AT&T and Verizon, along with the major telecom and wireless trade groups, declined to comment, saying they were waiting for more details on how firms will be able to offer their services to the nation.

But analysts say the potential business to supply Cuba's estimated 12 million residents with cellphone, Internet, and satellite television and radio service could be a boon for U.S. telecoms.

A report by Research and Markets, which follows telecommunications trends in Latin America, said Cuba has the lowest rate of cellphone and Internet use in Latin America. Cuba began to offer cellphone service last April, under President Raśl Castro, who was handed power by his brother Fidel.

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04-14-2009, 11:46 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/04/13/ST2009041303010.html

Defekted
04-14-2009, 11:47 AM
Step in the right direction....... decades of a failed policy and all the castro brothers have been doing is laughing while 10 presidents pass by.

Putting limitations on family members to see loved ones is cruel and unusal punishment. We need to normalize relations and ONLY then will we be able to reform Cuba from within. Failed policy from beginning to end.....proof is in the pudding.

Benny B
04-14-2009, 11:58 AM
Step in the right direction....... decades of a failed policy and all the castro brothers have been doing is laughing while 10 presidents pass by.

Putting limitations on family members to see loved ones is cruel and unusal punishment. We need to normalize relations and ONLY then will we be able to reform Cuba from within. Failed policy from beginning to end.....proof is in the pudding.

a step in the right direction of prolonging a dictatorship.. yeah good job

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 12:14 PM
Step in the right direction....... decades of a failed policy and all the castro brothers have been doing is laughing while 10 presidents pass by.

Putting limitations on family members to see loved ones is cruel and unusal punishment. We need to normalize relations and ONLY then will we be able to reform Cuba from within. Failed policy from beginning to end.....proof is in the pudding.

too bad cubans wouldnt agree with you .. secondly the whole world trades with cuba ..its up to castro brothers to free and release dissidents and allow cubans the god given right to produce goods and sell for a profit .then everyone got a chance..


so now Barry encouraging Cuba to stay communist at the time when both these old fucks can be kicking the can any minute ..real smart

Rover
04-14-2009, 12:45 PM
cuba has stayed communist for so long because of the very embargo which we placed on it 30 years ago. now that the noose is being loosened, change will come. not being able to trade with the most dominant country in your hemisphere is what has kept the old guard in place.

excellent move by this administration. i couldnt really care less about what a bunch of backwards cubans with personal agendas in Miami think. we tried it one way for 30 years and nothing changed, time to try a different approach.

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 12:47 PM
cuba has stayed communist for so long because of the very embargo which we placed on it 30 years ago. now that the noose is being loosened, change will come. not being able to trade with the most dominant country in your hemisphere is what has kept the old guard in place.

excellent move by this administration. i couldnt really care less about what a bunch of backwards cubans with personal agendas in Miami think. we tried it one way for 30 years and nothing changed, time to try a different approach.


but wait the whole world has been trading with cuba.. even the UK .. Even Obama not going to trade with them he only going to allow visitations.. but dont you think if he did ..the castros would be capitalists, release their prisoners, pay family members of the thousands they butchered and murderd cause barry trades with them ?? lmao

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 12:49 PM
cuba has stayed communist for so long because of the very embargo which we placed on it 30 years ago. now that the noose is being loosened, change will come. not being able to trade with the most dominant country in your hemisphere is what has kept the old guard in place.

excellent move by this administration. i couldnt really care less about what a bunch of backwards cubans with personal agendas in Miami think. we tried it one way for 30 years and nothing changed, time to try a different approach.

you can care less what cubans think lol .. as long as your white liberal communist agenda is rammed down their throat lol .. typical elitists .. who cares what cubans think .. we decide its better to keep their people oppressed
lol

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 12:55 PM
and this folks was another lie and broken promise of obama to the cuban community ..


Reps. Lincoln and Mario Diaz-Balart, brothers and Florida Republicans who are from Cuba, issued a joint statement calling the action a "serious mistake" that represents a concession to a repressive regime. They said the money flowing into Cuba would reach communist leaders, not the people.

"President Obama has violated his pledge of January 20 by unilaterally granting a concession to the dictatorship which will provide it with hundreds of millions of dollars annually," their statement said. "Unilateral concessions to the dictatorship embolden it to further isolate, imprison and brutalize pro-democracy activists."

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol lies, lies,lies, lies, and more lies

Rover
04-14-2009, 12:56 PM
the whole world has been trading with Cuba yes, but the whole world isnt the United States of America which happens to be their neighbor to the north. dude, we've tried it one way for 30 years and it hasnt worked, maybe a change of approach will help "liberate" ( i know you cream yourself when you hear that word) the Cuba of today from the Cuba of the past.

these dinosaurs of Communism are dying out and I can guarantee you there's a younger generation which isnt as archaic in their thought process as Fidel and Raul just waiting to take the reigns . we cant continue to ostracize the Cuban people bc of their government; if we really want to see change we need to help facilitate it not keep slapping them around. they're in a position where they can see legitimate change in their country..and turning our backs on them AGAIN would only create resentment, and given that the regular cuban citizen harbors none towards Americans, it's time we embrace them for once

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:00 PM
the whole world has been trading with Cuba yes, but the whole world isnt the United States of America which happens to be their neighbor to the north. dude, we've tried it one way for 30 years and it hasnt worked, maybe a change of approach will help "liberate" ( i know you cream yourself when you hear that word) the Cuba of today from the Cuba of the past.

these dinosaurs of Communism are dying out and I can guarantee you there's a younger generation which isnt as archaic in their thought process as Fidel and Raul just waiting to take the reigns . we cant continue to ostracize the Cuban people bc of their government; if we really want to see change we need to help facilitate it not keep slapping them around. they're in a position where they can see legitimate change in their country..and turning our backs on them AGAIN would only create resentment, and given that the regular cuban citizen harbors none towards Americans, it's time we embrace them for once

again you didnt explain why America trading with cuba will change the castros.. do you think they will now grant cubans the right to travel here?? hahahaha yeahhhhhhhhhhh rightttttttttt .. my point was these 2 are about to kick the bucket.. but barry just empowered to the castros .. this is a huge win for fidel and communism .. turning our backs on them is what Obama doing by helping the commies..

Rover
04-14-2009, 01:00 PM
can you act like a fucking grownup for once?

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:03 PM
can you act like a fucking grownup for once?

how am i acting childish by pointing out another lie and broken promise of Obama ..does he say anything he truly believes in ??

Rover
04-14-2009, 01:06 PM
again you didnt explain why America trading with cuba will change the castros.. do you think they will now grant cubans the right to travel here?? hahahaha yeahhhhhhhhhhh rightttttttttt .. my point was these 2 are about to kick the bucket.. but barry just empowered to the castros .. this is a huge win for fidel and communism .

because NOT trading with them hasnt done a goddamn thing for 3 decades. if you keep going to the same mechanic to fix your car..and the same shit keeps happening..wont you eventually find a different mechanic?

and if these 2 are about to kick the bucket...isnt this the perfect time to change our stance? cant you look @ this as our way of saying "hey change is upon you, you have our help, if you want it" ? or is that just too far fetched? i keep forgetting that you're the one who has actually been to Cuba and has spoken to regular citizens.

Rover
04-14-2009, 01:07 PM
how am i acting childish by pointing out another lie and broken promise of Obama ..does he say anything he truly believes in ??

the 15 smileys..the "yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh riiiiiiiiiiigh" 's ...you're like a worked up 5th grader who knows the answer to a math problem and has to be the one to answer it in hopes of gettign a gold star

Defekted
04-14-2009, 01:07 PM
a step in the right direction of prolonging a dictatorship.. yeah good job

prolonging a dictatorship? have you been sleeping at the wheel the last 5 decades? lol

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:09 PM
because NOT trading with them hasnt done a goddamn thing for 3 decades. if you keep going to the same mechanic to fix your car..and the same shit keeps happening..wont you eventually find a different mechanic?

and if these 2 are about to kick the bucket...isnt this the perfect time to change our stance? cant you look @ this as our way of saying "hey change is upon you, you have our help, if you want it" ? or is that just too far fetched? i keep forgetting that you're the one who has actually been to Cuba and has spoken to regular citizens.

no because the fidel supporters are ectstaitic which they should be.. and the anti castro wing is up in arms as they should be.. how are you helping the younger people by empowering their communist oppressors..who will reap all the rewards of this new money flowing into cuba??? ..the people??? hell no!!! right into fidels pockets and cuba military

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:10 PM
prolonging a dictatorship? have you been sleeping at the wheel the last 5 decades? lol

your boy must been sleepin on jan 20th when he his position was 100% ddifferent ..but hey thats common for mr. no values, morals, or core principles

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:12 PM
the 15 smileys..the "yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh riiiiiiiiiiigh" 's ...you're like a worked up 5th grader who knows the answer to a math problem and has to be the one to answer it in hopes of gettign a gold star

i know i shouldnt be shocked when Obama totally lies and flips his position .. i should be used to it by now

Defekted
04-14-2009, 01:15 PM
your boy must been sleepin on jan 20th when he his position was 100% ddifferent ..but hey thats common for mr. no values, morals, or core principles

my boy is far from asleep kid. He is running LAPS around the opposition. Face it man, he is the antithesis of Bush and everything Bush stood for...... and that is resulting in seismic shifts in our policy both home and abroad........next up - immigration, health care, etc......

watch the blood bath the rep opponent will get in 2012.

your bubble just got popped son, really bad. its a COLD COLD COLD world out there for a rightwing conservative holding on the coattails of failed neocon ideologues. When you want to get out of the cold and darkness, come to me and I got a hot bowl of soup and a snuggie waiting for you.

Rover
04-14-2009, 01:17 PM
so we should keep up the embargo is what youre saying?

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:20 PM
my boy is far from asleep kid. He is running LAPS around the opposition. Face it man, he is the antithesis of Bush and everything Bush stood for...... and that is resulting in seismic shifts in our policy both home and abroad........next up - immigration, health care, etc......

watch the blood bath the rep opponent will get in 2012.

your bubble just got popped son, really bad. its a COLD COLD COLD world out there for a rightwing conservative holding on the coattails of failed neocon ideologues. When you want to get out of the cold and darkness, come to me and I got a hot bowl of soup and a snuggie waiting for you.

well healthcare he never lied about so that im fine with all though i opose it ..your correct people did know who bush was and what bush stood for..he didnt have to deceive america about who he was to get elected twice..

as for Immigration never heard him run on amnesty .. i did hear him battle it with hillary about border enforcement so ill be lookin forward to hiss border program ..but never once did he mention amnesty .. he said he wouldnt grant illegals driver licenses hillary did .. will he lie again?

the problem defeckted is this .. is he had to fake his way in ..thats why he in now THE MOST POLARIZING PRESIDENT IN HISTORY

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:22 PM
so we should keep up the embargo is what youre saying?

yes because all the money just like china will go into the govts pocket ..not the peoples ..i dont see china any freer ..which is why i dont think we should trade with them .. on top of the fact they steal so many manufacturing jobs from America .. keep the money and oppress their people .. id love to kick the chinese to the curb .. oh but we cant cause we have to borrow from them cause of trillion dollar deficits

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:27 PM
my boy is far from asleep kid. He is running LAPS around the opposition. Face it man, he is the antithesis of Bush and everything Bush stood for...... and that is resulting in seismic shifts in our policy both home and abroad........next up - immigration, health care, etc......

watch the blood bath the rep opponent will get in 2012.

your bubble just got popped son, really bad. its a COLD COLD COLD world out there for a rightwing conservative holding on the coattails of failed neocon ideologues. When you want to get out of the cold and darkness, come to me and I got a hot bowl of soup and a snuggie waiting for you.

but wait the neocons like bill kristal are rooting and endorsing Barrys afghan surge

the conservative old right like buchanan and paul are not...

do you know the difference? of right wing vs neocom lol

Rover
04-14-2009, 01:32 PM
yes because all the money just like china will go into the govts pocket ..not the peoples ..i dont see china any freer ..which is why i dont think we should trade with them .. on top of the fact they steal so many manufacturing jobs from America .. keep the money and oppress their people .. id love to kick the chinese to the curb .. oh but we cant cause we have to borrow from them cause of trillion dollar deficits

congratulations on drawing a parallel between a country 8,000 miles away from the US with 1,330,044,544 citizens and a country 92 miles away from the US with 11,423,952 citizens. i really dont know what more to say. you've outdone yourself.

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:35 PM
congratulations on drawing a parallel between a country 8,000 miles away from the US with 1,330,044,544 citizens and a country 92 miles away from the US with 11,423,952 citizens. i really dont know what more to say. you've outdone yourself.

i do that country with the much larger population is still more repressed than ever yet we trade with them .. so why would cuba get any freer ..lol whats geography have to do wit it unless were talking national security issues of defense..we know all this new money will be confiscated by the communist cubans

Rover
04-14-2009, 01:37 PM
spheres of influence...you ever hear that term?

i'm done..i cant keep going back and forth with you.

ShaE
04-14-2009, 01:39 PM
my boy is far from asleep kid. He is running LAPS around the opposition. Face it man, he is the antithesis of Bush and everything Bush stood for...... and that is resulting in seismic shifts in our policy both home and abroad........next up - immigration, health care, etc......

watch the blood bath the rep opponent will get in 2012.

your bubble just got popped son, really bad. its a COLD COLD COLD world out there for a rightwing conservative holding on the coattails of failed neocon ideologues. When you want to get out of the cold and darkness, come to me and I got a hot bowl of soup and a snuggie waiting for you.
:lol

Defekted
04-14-2009, 01:49 PM
THE MOST POLARIZING PRESIDENT IN HISTORY

what a joke. Look at the numbers. On second thought, you are right - his 63% approval rating is 100% democrats, lol..... cause 63% of the country is now blue..... so yes you are right - republicans dont like him at all..... too bad they can all squeeze into Pacha.

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:56 PM
what a joke. Look at the numbers. On second thought, you are right - his 63% approval rating is 100% democrats, lol..... cause 63% of the country is now blue..... so yes you are right - republicans dont like him at all..... too bad they can all squeeze into Pacha.


Wow bro looks like you lost all those republicans and indepandants since jan look at the change.. besides even coburn is dissing barry now.. for running a fake campaign





http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/images/obama_index_0414/213639-1-eng-US/obama_index_0414.jpg

ShaE
04-14-2009, 01:58 PM
congratulations on drawing a parallel between a country 8,000 miles away from the US with 1,330,044,544 citizens and a country 92 miles away from the US with 11,423,952 citizens. i really dont know what more to say. you've outdone yourself.
no no, i believe that's when he called obama stalin lol

ShaE
04-14-2009, 02:00 PM
no no wait, when he said he'd never trust a poll again, then "redefined" his statement about 100 times since then as to WHEN and under which conditions polls are valid lol

Rover
04-14-2009, 02:04 PM
i really liked his recent commentary on how Obama mishandled the hostage situation in the gulf of aden. he was so spot on

ShaE
04-14-2009, 02:11 PM
i really liked his recent commentary on how Obama mishandled the hostage situation in the gulf of aden. he was so spot on
we're only a few months in yet, more to come lol

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:12 PM
i really liked his recent commentary on how Obama mishandled the hostage situation in the gulf of aden. he was so spot on

but you agreed should have been done on day one.. i was referring to his no comments and hillary giggling like a chick

ShaE
04-14-2009, 02:13 PM
hillary is a chick lol

Benny B
04-14-2009, 02:14 PM
hillary is a chick lol

you sure about that?? id go with the junk test on that one

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:16 PM
hillary is a chick lol

so was condi rice .. no comparison

Rover
04-14-2009, 02:29 PM
but you agreed should have been done on day one.. i was referring to his no comments and hillary giggling like a chick

i explained myself several times in that thread, and explained to you why they may not be addressing it. turns out i was 100% right. damn it feels good to be a gangster

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:33 PM
i explained myself several times in that thread, and explained to you why they may not be addressing it. turns out i was 100% right. damn it feels good to be a gangster

but they did adress it .. with silly giggling ..

Rover
04-14-2009, 02:36 PM
all's well that ends well i say.

metfan85
04-14-2009, 08:57 PM
I didn't get to read it all, but that's great news. Good for Obama. The Cuban people shouldn't be punished for the animals in charge. Regardless of the embargo, the government still got rich. Now good Lord willing, the markets can open up like with China, real liberty can take hold, not this forced democracy bullshit, liberals and neo-cons push.

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 09:56 PM
I didn't get to read it all, but that's great news. Good for Obama. The Cuban people shouldn't be punished for the animals in charge. Regardless of the embargo, the government still got rich. Now good Lord willing, the markets can open up like with China, real liberty can take hold, not this forced democracy bullshit, liberals and neo-cons push.

actually krauthammer and neocons are on your side.. :yourcrazy

you think the cuban people are gonna benefit lol.. castro gonna steal all the money like the chinese do ..

since when are you in favor of our trade policy with china? i thought you defended manufacturing domestically

DjCubanLiink'd
04-14-2009, 10:01 PM
I never thought id said this but

"YESSSSSSSSSSSSS"