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jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:51 PM
Obama is determined to rip this country apart..

Bush never went after his critics!!!!!!! as much as you disagreed with him

so what happened to all those terrorists bush created?? .. this really sad ..our men go and fight for their country and have to deal with this BS.. i thought homeland security was to go after terrorists ..not patriots
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The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

would that include black and hispanic soldiers???lmao

A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.

"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.

The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned."

The nine-page document was sent to police and sheriff's departments across the United States on April 7 under the headline, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment."

It says the federal government "will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months" to gather information on "rightwing extremist activity in the United States."

The joint federal-state activities will have "a particular emphasis" on the causes of "rightwing extremist radicalization."

Homeland Security spokeswoman Sara Kuban said the report is one in an ongoing series of assessments by the department to "facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the U.S."

The report, which was first disclosed to the public by nationally syndicated radio host Roger Hedgecock, makes clear that the Homeland Security Department does not have "specific information that domestic rightwing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence."It warns that fringe organizations are gaining recruits, but it provides no numbers.

The report says extremist groups have used President Obama as a recruiting tool.


Most statements by rightwing extremists have been rhetorical, expressing concerns about the election of the first African American president, but stopping short of calls for violent action," the report says. "In two instances in the run-up to the election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of some threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law enforcement interceded."

When asked about this passage, Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said, "We are concerned about anybody who will try to harm or plan to harm any one of our protectees. We don't have the luxury to focus on one particular group at the exclusion of others."

Congressional debates about immigration and gun control also make extremist groups suspicious and give them a rallying cry, the report says.

"It is unclear if either bill will be passed into law; nonetheless, a correlation may exist between the potential passage of gun control legislation and increased hoarding of ammunition, weapons stockpiling, and paramilitary training activities among rightwing extremists," the report said.

The FBI was quoted Monday as saying that, since November, more than 7 million people have applied for criminal background checks in order to buy weapons.

The Homeland Security report added: "Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, including militias and white supremacists, have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point, and recruiting tool."

The report could signify a change in emphasis for Homeland Security under former Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. A German magazine quoted Ms. Napolitano as rebranding "terrorism" as "man-made disasters." Since its inception in 2003, the department has focused primarily on radicalization of Muslims and the prospect of homegrown Islamist terrorism.

Ms. Kuban said, however, that the department had published reports on left-wing radicalization as well, though she could not name one.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

"These types of reports are published all the time. There have actually been some done on the other end of the spectrum, left-wing," Ms. Kuban said.

A similar headline was used in a report issued in January, Ms. Kuban said, although she could not provide the content of the headline.

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:55 PM
So shae are we still ****paranoid**** lmaoooooooooo


Homeland Security on guard for 'right-wing extremists'
Returning U.S. military veterans singled out as particular threats
Posted: April 12, 2009
9:40 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily


WASHINGTON – A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats.

The report, titled "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," dated April 7, states that "threats from white supremacist and violent anti-government groups during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts."

However, the document, first reported by talk-radio host and WND columnist Roger Hedgecock, goes on to suggest worsening economic woes, potential new legislative restrictions on firearms and "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."

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The report from DHS' Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines right-wing extremism in the U.S. as "divided into those groups, movements and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups) and those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

"[T]he consequences of a prolonged economic downturn – including real estate foreclosures, unemployment and an inability to obtain credit – could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities similar to those in the past," the report says.

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It adds that "growth in these groups subsided in reaction to increased government scrutiny as a result of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and disrupted plots, improvements in the economy and the continued U.S. standing as the pre-eminent world power."

"Proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans likely would attract new members into the ranks of right-wing extremist groups as well as potentially spur some of them to begin planning and training for violence against the government," the report continues. "The high volume of purchases and stockpiling of weapons and ammunition by right-wing extremists in anticipation of restrictions and bans in some parts of the country continue to be a primary concern to law enforcement."

Most notable is the report's focus on the impact of returning war veterans.

"Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to right-wing extremists," it says. "DHS/I&A is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize veterans in order to boost their violent capacities."

The report cites the April 4 shooting deaths of three police officers in Pittsburgh as an example of what may be coming, claiming the alleged gunman holds a racist ideology and believes in anti-government conspiracy theories about gun confiscations, citizen detention camps and "a Jewish-controlled 'one-world government.'"

It also suggests the election of an African-American president and the prospect of his policy changes "are proving to be a driving force for right-wing extremist recruitment and radicalization."

The report also mentions "'end times' prophecies could motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, ammunition and weapons. These teachings also have been linked with the radicalization of domestic extremist individuals and groups in the past, such as the violent Christian Identity organizations and extremist members of the militia movement."

"DHS/I&A assesses that right-wing extremist groups' frustration over a perceived lack of government action on illegal immigration has the potential to incite individuals or small groups toward violence," the report continues.

The report states the DHS will be working with state and local partners over the next several months to determine the levels of right-wing extremist activity in the U.S.

Last month, the chief of the Missouri highway patrol blasted a report issued by the Missouri Information Analysis Center that linked conservative groups to domestic terrorism, assuring that such reports no longer will be issued. The report had been compiled with the assistance of DHS.

The report warned law enforcement agencies to watch for suspicious individuals who may have bumper stickers for third-party political candidates such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin.

It further warned law enforcement to watch out for individuals with "radical" ideologies based on Christian views, such as opposing illegal immigration, abortion and federal taxes.

Chief James Keathley of the Missouri State Patrol issued a statement that the release of the report, which outraged conservatives nationwide, prompted him to "take a hard look" at the procedures through which the report was released by the MIAC.

"My review of the procedures used by the MIAC in the three years since its inception indicates that the mechanism in place for oversight of reports needs improvement," he wrote. "Until two weeks ago, the process for release of reports from the MIAC to law enforcement officers around the state required no review by leaders of the Missouri State Highway Patrol or the Department of Public Safety."

"For that reason, I have ordered the MIAC to permanently cease distribution of the militia report," he said. "Further, I am creating a new process for oversight of reports drafted by the MIAC that will require leaders of the Missouri State Highway Patrol and the Department of Public Safety to review the content of these reports before they are shared with law enforcement. My office will also undertake a review of the origin of the report by MIAC."

ShaE
04-14-2009, 01:57 PM
Obama is determined to rip this country apart..


yea, why should he care, according to you he's not even american lol

ShaE
04-14-2009, 01:57 PM
yup you still are :)

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 01:58 PM
yup you still are :)

not really this report shows us.. target white veterans..gun owners, ..and those who are right wing..

Defekted
04-14-2009, 01:59 PM
Bush never went after his critics? What the fuck do you think the NSA wiretapping and Patriot Act was used for? to take orders at a mcdonalds drivethru? Gotta be kidding me.

Every leftist, antiwar leader was shadowed and spied on...... this is business as usual, fringe groups on either side ALWAYS get watched.

You are beyond paranoid. Dont worry dude, your skinhead crew can still conduct those Wednesday evening meetings just so long as you guys dont break stuff........lol

ShaE
04-14-2009, 02:02 PM
i didn't read it jamez, i just answered, you're paranoid.

"obama wants to tear the country apart"
"obama is a foreigner"

how can i take you seriously w/ that?

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:05 PM
Bush never went after his critics? What the fuck do you think the NSA wiretapping and Patriot Act was used for? to take orders at a mcdonalds drivethru? Gotta be kidding me.

Every leftist, antiwar leader was shadowed and spied on...... this is business as usual, fringe groups on either side ALWAYS get watched.

You are beyond paranoid. Dont worry dude, your skinhead crew can still conduct those Wednesday evening meetings just so long as you guys dont break stuff........lol

it was used against TERRORISTS

NOW OBAMA USING IT FOR VETS< GUN OWNERS< LIBERTARIANS<CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS

lets see Bush report on "left wing anti war people such as yourself"

NOW WE KNOW WHY BARRY VOTED FOR DOMESTIC SPY PROGRAM

but how can you call me paranoid when the report is out ..LOL

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:06 PM
i didn't read it jamez, i just answered, you're paranoid.

"obama wants to tear the country apart"
"obama is a foreigner"

how can i take you seriously w/ that?

oh i know you didnt read it..why would you? lol

ShaE
04-14-2009, 02:07 PM
it was used against TERRORISTS


:lolnaive, nice to meet you

JustLikeHeaven
04-14-2009, 02:07 PM
i didn't read it jamez, i just answered, you're paranoid.

"obama wants to tear the country apart"
"obama is a foreigner"

how can i take you seriously w/ that?

The introduction was enough to dissuade me from even reading the article...lol.

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:10 PM
:lolnaive, nice to meet you

show me one the bush reports from homeland security about domestic left wingers.. the aclu couldnt find one ..yet you can??lmao

show me where bush singled out people like joe the plumber or rush, hannity, etc

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:15 PM
:lolnaive, nice to meet you

hey shae what the budget for walter reed now? i know you bush hell for it.. but now after fighting in Iraq they gonna be monitored and im guessing it just the white ones since they used the term "white supremecy" ..lol

Defekted
04-14-2009, 02:17 PM
it was used against TERRORISTS

NOW OBAMA USING IT FOR VETS< GUN OWNERS< LIBERTARIANS<CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS

lets see Bush report on "left wing anti war people such as yourself"

NOW WE KNOW WHY BARRY VOTED FOR DOMESTIC SPY PROGRAM

but how can you call me paranoid when the report is out ..LOL

You have got to be kidding me..... you know how easy it is for them to say Mr. so and so is a "preceived threat" to national security .... and have them watched?

They used top-secret databases to guide their domestic surveillance program. The ACLU and other legal groups are JUST scratching the tip of the iceburg with all the secrets the most secretive administration in history has......... if you think the patriot act and NSA was used on 10 arabs in michigan I got a bridge to sell you. There were probably millions of instances of the government listening in on american citizens..... all of them being "terrorists" .....

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 02:23 PM
You have got to be kidding me..... you know how easy it is for them to say Mr. so and so is a "preceived threat" to national security .... and have them watched?

They used top-secret databases to guide their domestic surveillance program. The ACLU and other legal groups are JUST scratching the tip of the iceburg with all the secrets the most secretive administration in history has......... if you think the patriot act and NSA was used on 10 arabs in michigan I got a bridge to sell you. There were probably millions of instances of the government listening in on american citizens..... all of them being "terrorists" .....

again you cant find one instance where that happened .. we do know they did prevent 17 terror attacks here in america and a huge one in the UK ..so they were focused on jihadists ..

i just pray we dont have another waco on our hands .. looks like where thats going .. why do you democrats try your hardest to like communists .. this is straight out of PUTINS handbook ..

first journalists

then private citizen like joe the plumber,,

now our VETERANS ..

what a fuckin disgrace

metfan85
04-14-2009, 09:06 PM
just like under FDR and Clinton, the supposed right wing extremists "terrorists" were a threat.

I wouldn't be suprised at all if the feds plant someone to be a trouble maker at one of the tea parties tomorrow.

DJ Becka
04-14-2009, 09:45 PM
i didn't read it jamez, i just answered, you're paranoid.

"obama wants to tear the country apart"
"obama is a foreigner"

how can i take you seriously w/ that?

People actually take Jamez seriously? :lol

jameznyhc
04-14-2009, 09:54 PM
People actually take Jamez seriously? :lol

we'll people are going to take to the streets tomorow ..let the revolution begin :heythere

DJ Becka
04-15-2009, 12:05 AM
Ooooooh.......you mean the TEABAG party? Whoah.....the right has really outdone themselves with this.....

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metfan85
04-15-2009, 12:27 AM
Yeah the tea parties. Happened a couple hundred years ago, last time people want to shove it down the gov'ts throat about how the people feel.

It's getting ridiculous, they are taking our guns away, buying up ammunition and destroiyng it so there are shortages, raising taxes, making people who voted 3rd party and libertarian seem to be terrorists.

It's about God damned time they know we can't be taxed into submission. We won't stand by and let them take more of our hard earned money and give it to billionaire bankers. We won't let them take our guns and control every aspect of our lives.

God bless America and God damn Uncle Sam.

jameznyhc
04-15-2009, 01:05 AM
Ooooooh.......you mean the TEABAG party? Whoah.....the right has really outdone themselves with this.....

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can you think of anything more american and patriotic than protesting taxes .. did you ever learn about a tea party in boston? i believe its in the history books lol

drumaboy
04-15-2009, 01:08 AM
can you think of anything more american and patriotic than protesting taxes .. did you ever learn about a tea party in boston? i believe its in the history books lol

of course she knows of a SUBSTANTIAL revolution, but this one is quite minor, and won't make a bleep on the radar, as someone said here, forgot who it was, it's just a circle jerk amongst a certain group

face it......your President is BLACK

jameznyhc
04-15-2009, 01:10 AM
of course she knows of a SUBSTANTIAL revolution, but this one is quite minor, and won't make a bleep on the radar, as someone said here, forgot who it was, it's just a circle jerk amongst a certain group

face it......your President is BLACK

And so is my hero clarence thomas and walter williams , so whats your point...lol ?

jameznyhc
04-15-2009, 01:18 AM
and donato dont forget the first hardcore band and the greatest band in my opinion is bad brains .. wouldnt you agree?

drumaboy
04-15-2009, 01:32 AM
and donato dont forget the first hardcore band and the greatest band in my opinion is bad brains .. wouldnt you agree?

really not into labels, "first" seems kind of odd, i mean, technically speaking, it would rest on who hit the first power chord which is nearly impossible to track...pioneers? hell's yeah, "greatest" well, again, not into labels, and although i would share a recent discovery of an all black band that was very punk rock before bad brains, i'd rather not ..... sit with your opinions as facts, one day when someone throws you this discovery remember this post, till then, enjoy your own little world

jameznyhc
04-15-2009, 01:36 AM
really not into labels, "first" seems kind of odd, i mean, technically speaking, it would rest on who hit the first power chord which is nearly impossible to track...pioneers? hell's yeah, "greatest" well, again, not into labels, and although i would share a recent discovery of an all black band that was very punk rock before bad brains, i'd rather not ..... sit with your opinions as facts, one day when someone throws you this discovery remember this post, till then, enjoy your own little world

i would say first hardcore band ..not punk .. maybe the misfits..but whats your obsession with race?

darius
04-15-2009, 06:21 PM
can you think of anything more american and patriotic than protesting taxes .. did you ever learn about a tea party in boston? i believe its in the history books lol

the original tea party was because of taxation without representation . . . who, among current protestors, doesn't have representation?

let's just agree that this is largely a symbolic use of tea and nothing more that in relation to the original tea party. at its heart, the two couldn't possibly be any more different.

jameznyhc
04-15-2009, 06:54 PM
the original tea party was because of taxation without representation . . . who, among current protestors, doesn't have representation?

let's just agree that this is largely a symbolic use of tea and nothing more that in relation to the original tea party. at its heart, the two couldn't possibly be any more different.

and since 65% of americans oppose deficits, bailouts and tax hikes ..and its bipartisian ..where is the representation? .. hmm lets see we had a republican house, senate, and president .. and yet spending INCREASED ..ok we got tax cuts .. so that hampered alot of anger .. Bush did give trillion dollar tax cuts ... we were at war also ..

But the way i remeber is that dems on this forum screamed about bush spending and deficits .. never heard them complain about the tax cuts .. the republicans such as myself benny alex etc also hated bush spending ..

now we have a dem house senate and preident that said they would change washington .. no more same old same old .. now not only does obama increase spending 3 times as much as bush did ..we are now loosing bush tax cuts .. so after the republicans fucked us on spending & bailouts .. now the dems are fuckin us on spending taxes and bailouts

where the represenatation if the majority of americans clearly object to all 3 .. see you wanted change .. well we got it .. higher taxes and more spending was not what barry campaigned on .. nope he sid 95% of us will get tax cuts .. and he hammered bush on stimulus, spending and deficits .. then he makes it worse:yourcrazy

metfan85
04-15-2009, 08:06 PM
the original tea party was because of taxation without representation . . . who, among current protestors, doesn't have representation?

let's just agree that this is largely a symbolic use of tea and nothing more that in relation to the original tea party. at its heart, the two couldn't possibly be any more different.

who among our current voters has representation? To think that because you can change the ceo of a giant organization you have a say in it's daily ops is lunacy.

2 election cycles of people voting against the wars, and military spending is going up faster under the peacenik Obama than the warmonger Bush spent.

What taxpayer voter for a tax increase? Yes I know we have the few morons lying around who would rather pay more taxes and force us all to pay more as well, when they could simply give to charity, but the overwhelming majority was NOT for the bailouts, the devaluation of the dollar, the inflation tax that will set in and tax increases on people who PAY taxes.

They couldn't be more different if you believe in rhetoric instead of reality.

joeylima
04-16-2009, 11:38 AM
who among our current voters has representation? To think that because you can change the ceo of a giant organization you have a say in it's daily ops is lunacy.

2 election cycles of people voting against the wars, and military spending is going up faster under the peacenik Obama than the warmonger Bush spent.

What taxpayer voter for a tax increase? Yes I know we have the few morons lying around who would rather pay more taxes and force us all to pay more as well, when they could simply give to charity, but the overwhelming majority was NOT for the bailouts, the devaluation of the dollar, the inflation tax that will set in and tax increases on people who PAY taxes.

They couldn't be more different if you believe in rhetoric instead of reality.

:applause