Peace Protesters

[mazznyc]

Do they have egg on thier faces right now?? I dont know...Im definately seeing pictures of lots of happy Iraqi's right now. I know the protesters have gotten much more quiet as things have unfolded. We'll see what happens..

Fuck them all.....I hope they all get yeast infections and genital warts.

[kroms]

maybe they will all go get jobs now....and the unemploymeny rate will drop...

[MichelangeloWHO]

whats great is that a big protest was scheduled for this saturday in washington.. love to see what happens w. that

[CaStA]

im gonna goto that protest with a saddam hussein head on a stick and whack people off the head with it.

[mazznyc]

Originally posted by MichelangeloWho
whats great is that a big protest was scheduled for this saturday in washington.. love to see what happens w. that

I would love to see the Iraqi information minister and ask him if he still the thinks the US troops arent in Baghdad...LOL....

[MsRay]

Originally posted by mazznyc
Do they have egg on thier faces right now?? I dont know...Im definately seeing pictures of lots of happy Iraqi's right now. I know the protesters have gotten much more quiet as things have unfolded. We'll see what happens.. Success does not mean right. I would be disappointed if peace protesters were still protesting the war at this point. Like I said before, the troops are over there and right now their safety and return as quickly as possible is paramount. I don't have much sympathy for those still protesting their hearts out because to me they deny reality and they are of no use to the dissension which now needs to focus on making sure we fulfill our duty to see this thing through in terms of the Iraqi civilians and making sure the administration doesn't go unscathed for it's conduct leading to the war and currently.

This article (http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/04/04/cakewalk/index.html) talks about this rather well.

[twilightbee]

I think these people are protesting because they think its trendy or something. I think they dont even know what they are protesting anymore. How does anyone with any common sense rationalize protesting a war thats already so far gone and think that its going to change anything?

[MsRay]

Originally posted by mazznyc
I would love to see the Iraqi information minister and ask him if he still the thinks the US troops arent in Baghdad...LOL.... He's a trip. I can't figure out what's going through his head. It's like he's waiting for God himself to come and prove him right.

[Unclebuc]

Originally posted by mazznyc
I would love to see the Iraqi information minister and ask him if he still the thinks the US troops arent in Baghdad...LOL....

He is the funniest guy on TV right now....I love that guy


I heart Bagdad Bob!!!!!!!!

[lock16]

Originally posted by MsRay
He's a trip. I can't figure out what's going through his head. It's like he's waiting for God himself to come and prove him right.

most of them still fighting prolly think god will come and save them.....

[mazznyc]

Originally posted by MsRay
Success does not mean right. I would be disappointed if peace protesters were still protesting the war at this point. Like I said before, the troops are over there and right now their safety and return as quickly as possible is paramount. I don't have much sympathy for those still protesting their hearts out because to me they deny reality and they are of no use to the dissension which now needs to focus on making sure we fulfill our duty to see this thing through in terms of the Iraqi civilians and making sure the administration doesn't go unscathed for it's conduct leading to the war and currently.

This article (http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/04/04/cakewalk/index.html) talks about this rather well.

I dont know Ray..Obviously its still very early... I think the Iraqi peoples standards of living just got alot better. and thats the deciding factor.

You think Sadaams got one last trick up his sleeve? I mean honestly, he knew what was going to happen with all the surrenders. And if he didnt he was certainly aware of what was happening as the war progreesed (s). I wouldnt put it past him if he has the whole city wired with a nuke to blow the entire city sky high while he tunnels his way out of the country. I would hope not but this guy has no respect for human life whatsoever.

[mazznyc]

Originally posted by PhuckU
You think Sadaams got one last trick up his sleeve? I mean honestly, he knew what was going to happen with all the surrenders. And if he didnt he was certainly aware of what was happening as the war progreesed (s). I wouldnt put it past him if he has the whole city wired with a nuke to blow the entire city sky high while he tunnels his way out of the country. I would hope not but this guy has no respect for human life whatsoever.

I was thinking that too. Unfortunately...I dont think this thing will be over until something bad does happen.

[kroms]

Originally posted by twilightbee
I think these people are protesting because they think its trendy or something. I think they dont even know what they are protesting anymore. How does anyone with any common sense rationalize protesting a war thats already so far gone and think that its going to change anything?

about a week an a half ago i read an article where a reporter was at the protest as pple lay in the middle of 5th Ave during the morning rush...he noticed a few pple off to the side lay down on the sidewalk...he went over and asked why they werrent in the street blocking traffic .....a lady got up and said " I'm can't get arrested today, i have too many things to do later in the day"..:tool

lol...that about says it all for me...

[MsRay]

Originally posted by mazznyc
I dont know Ray..Obviously its still very early... I think the Iraqi peoples standards of living just got alot better. and thats the deciding factor. I don't dispute that. Iraq without Saddam is decidedly better for everyone including the Iraqi civilians, but it doesn't change how this war came about which I feel is clearly wrong. My feeling is the war is here and no sense in arguing whether we should go to war, but after all is said and done, Bush and Co. still have some things they need to answer for.

I mean honestly think about it. The government thinks that because Osama and Sadaam arent on Tv and that there old videos means something to the lines that theyre dead. Um no, it means they have made there point and they want us thinking they are dead. Us forces are in Bagdhad, why would you want to be on Tv. Thats only going to continue the push to find your ass. Osama took credit and that was it. There toying with the mental aspects of war which is a very smart ploy. Videos can tell alot if you study them. So why dig your own grave?

[MsRay]

Originally posted by KEEF
about a week an a half ago i read an article where a reporter was at the protest as pple lay in the middle of 5th Ave during the morning rush...he noticed a few pple off to the side lay down on the sidewalk...he went over and asked why they werrent in the street blocking traffic .....a lady got up and said " I'm can't get arrested today, i have too many things to do later in the day"..:tool

lol...that about says it all for me... Obviously, those few people weren't representative of all the protesters.

[kroms]

Originally posted by MsRay
Obviously, those few people weren't representative of all the protesters.

yeah the other protesters did nt have jobs to get to or errands to run...

[MsRay]

Originally posted by KEEF
yeah the other protesters did nt have jobs to get to or errands to run... Assumption.

Originally posted by MsRay
I don't dispute that. Iraq without Saddam is decidedly better for everyone including the Iraqi civilians, but it doesn't change how this war came about which I feel is clearly wrong. My feeling is the war is here and no sense in arguing whether we should go to war, but after all is said and done, Bush and Co. still have some things they need to answer for.

Why do you clearly feel it is wrong? Do you feel that Countries should be able to produce WMD's and lie about it? Do you feel that countries deserve 20 chances to fix what they claim they dont have?? Hey at least North Korea came out and said it.

[MsRay]

Originally posted by PhuckU
Why do you clearly feel it is wrong? Do you feel that Countries should be able to produce WMD's and lie about it? Do you feel that countries deserve 20 chances to fix what they claim they dont have?? Hey at least North Korea came out and said it. I don't believe they have conclusively found biological or chemical agents in Iraq, and there are certainly no nuclear weapons there.

It was clearly wrong because of the shifting basis for their reasoning and the shambles of democracy following Resolution 1441.

20 chances? Consistency applied to all UN resolutions is what you're looking for? How many do you think are still being ignored by friendly and unfriendly nations?

Please don't confuse my objection to methods and objections to removing Saddam.

Originally posted by MsRay
I don't believe they have conclusively found biological or chemical agents in Iraq, and there are certainly no nuclear weapons there.

It was clearly wrong because of the shifting basis for their reasoning and the shambles of democracy following Resolution 1441.

20 chances? Consistency applied to all UN resolutions is what you're looking for? How many do you think are still being ignored by friendly and unfriendly nations?

Please don't confuse my objection to methods and objections to removing Saddam.

Well what you believe and whats going on are 2 completely different things. Im not degrading your opinion at all btw. They have already found nerve gasses and blister agents, just not in the mass amounts they expected. They found more in 17 days than the weapons inspectors found in 4 months. Besides the fact there finding gas masks with all ammunition finds, what does that tell you. Obviously, were not going to attack with chemical weapons so what do they need them for? Why were all the Iraqui citizens buying gas masks. Do you remember when Saddam slaughtered 5000 Kurds with Nerve Agents? So why dont you believe he has them now? The consequence of Resolution 1441 was Military Action if YOU DONT COMPLY....it was written in stone..They failed to comply, did they not. This resolution was signed by the majority of the Un which it was why it gt passed to begin with...You dont make a serious resolution like this, especially with a known liar, a serious situation and back away from it. Its difficult to find these things accross a whole country when they havent got the first idea as to where to look. Its a whole COUNTRY. Underground tunnels, schools, hospitals...etcetcetc.. Im sure there are Un Resolutions that are ignored but you have to understand the importance of whats best fpor the world comes first.

[MsRay]

Originally posted by PhuckU
Well what you believe and whats going on are 2 completely different things. Im not degrading your opinion at all btw. They have already found nerve gasses and blister agents, just not in the mass amounts they expected. They found more in 17 days than the weapons inspectors found in 4 months. Besides the fact there finding gas masks with all ammunition finds, what does that tell you. Obviously, were not going to attack with chemical weapons so what do they need them for? Why were all the Iraqui citizens buying gas masks. Do you remember when Saddam slaughtered 5000 Kurds with Nerve Agents? So why dont you believe he has them now? The consequence of Resolution 1441 was Military Action if YOU DONT COMPLY....it was written in stone..They failed to comply, did they not. This resolution was signed by the majority of the Un which it was why it gt passed to begin with...You dont make a serious resolution like this, especially with a known liar, a serious situation and back away from it. Its difficult to find these things accross a whole country when they havent got the first idea as to where to look. Its a whole COUNTRY. Underground tunnels, schools, hospitals...etcetcetc.. Im sure there are Un Resolutions that are ignored but you have to understand the importance of whats best fpor the world comes first. The resolution is open to interpretation and it was designed that way. It is the way of diplomacy, but that's besides the point. A small amount of a weapon hardly has the same impact as a large amount and having the inspectors there prevented their use anyway. Iraq was not an immediate threat to the U.S. or the world.

What's best for the world? Interesting you should say that since this wasn't about what was best for the world, but what was best for the U.S. for better or worse.

Simply put, removing Saddam could have occurred in a different manner even one that still led to war, but without endangering our credibility in the world or ignoring the problems back home - i.e. the economy.

And before it's brought up, I wholeheartedly do not believe that this war was a war for the Iraqi civilians. It is a GOOD thing that this war has the added effect of "liberation," but it was no more than that: an added effect. Of course, that does not mean that I don't feel we should now remove in some capactiy to help in rebuilding.

Originally posted by MsRay
The resolution is open to interpretation and it was designed that way. It is the way of diplomacy, but that's besides the point. A small amount of a weapon hardly has the same impact as a large amount and having the inspectors there prevented their use anyway. Iraq was not an immediate threat to the U.S. or the world.

What's best for the world? Interesting you should say that since this wasn't about what was best for the world, but what was best for the U.S. for better or worse.

Simply put, removing Saddam could have occurred in a different manner even one that still led to war, but without endangering our credibility in the world or ignoring the problems back home - i.e. the economy.

And before it's brought up, I wholeheartedly do not believe that this war was a war for the Iraqi civilians. It is a GOOD thing that this war has the added effect of "liberation," but it was no more than that: an added effect. Of course, that does not mean that I don't feel we should now remove in some capactiy to help in rebuilding.

I do understand what your saying to an extent but the truth of the matter is your opinion and my opinion really doesnt matter because our different reasonings for this war may not even be close to why it has taken place. Only the people who have started this know the real reasons but the fact is, the resolution was passed by a majority in which France and Russia probably never thought it would have. They have financial obligations with Iraq and thats why they want nothing to do with it. I agree with you 100 percent, this war aint about Iraqui Freedom, this war is because the US feels threatened after 9/11. But I also feel the US doesnt want to see another 9/11 anywhere else either. Hypothetically, say theres link with Sadaam and Al Quieda which I strongly believe there is and we had done nothing. They build up over the course of the next 2 years and come in here or another country but this time they kill 100,000 people. Where do we go from here? Its too late when we could have prevented it now. They kill people for no reason whatsoever including there own. And I do disgree with you about removing Sadaam. There is no more simple ay to do this. ANd there is no way to do it credible. If you think there is explain.

[admin]

Wow, not sure if some of you are watching todays news, Iraqis are celebrating all over Iraq, all major cities. I'm not talking about hundreds, I'm talking about tens of thousands of people. They dragged Sadams statue all over the streets and people taking turns riding it, lol. In Dearborn, Michigan there is like a freakin parade of American Iraqis, joyful. I tell you watching todays development bring a huge smile to my face, its really touching.

As for the protesters, its always the same people that protest other stuff like abortion. These are the outcast that want to belong to a group of people. I remember going to an abortion clinic with a friend that asked me to come and on the way in there was these protesters. I remember saying "damn, what hole did they crowl out of", they where these strange looking people, no wonder they were against abortion cause no one who fuck them. These people are morons. I'm against a few things but you wont see me going on protests, I'll start a website first and let my voice be heard that way instead of causing problems on the streets of this country.

[MsRay]

Originally posted by Dmitry
Wow, not sure if some of you are watching todays news, Iraqis are celebrating all over Iraq, all major cities. I'm not talking about hundreds, I'm talking about tens of thousands of people. They dragged Sadams statue all over the streets and people taking turns riding it, lol. In Dearborn, Michigan there is like a freakin parade of American Iraqis, joyful. I tell you watching todays development bring a huge smile to my face, its really touching.Dmitry is right. For now, we should be happy that Saddam's gone ... it is a positive thing.

Originally posted by MsRay
Dmitry is right. For now, we should be happy that Saddam's gone ... it is a positive thing.

O believe me, hes not gone, just hiding....

[MsRay]

Originally posted by PhuckU
O believe me, hes not gone, just hiding.... Correction: "Saddam's regime." ;)

[blvd689]

How was Sadam not a threat? The weapons inspecors were a joke. They couldnt find a tombstone in a cemetary.
Remember he has two sons, when he's out of power the sick, evil, twisted barbaric regime continues...and with their sons...who knows when it would have ended.
Plus it's very obvious he would have been more than willing to sell chemicals to terrorist organizations. Shit he was already harboring them...right in his own country in the North. That was until the US and Kurdish fighters killed all those fucks.

Syria harbors them too...but we will just flick them.

[mazznyc]

In the case of governments and wars..The ends justifies the means.

[*~Eleni~*]

fuck the "peace" protestors and anti-americans..idiots..hippies..losers...ignorant fools

i think its a beautiful thing that these people are liberated..

have you heard about the children that were set free from the prison? some of them were in there for four years!!!!
their parents celebrated and danced in the streets
and that is just ONE of countless disgusting things these people had to live with...i can only shudder to think of the worst they had to endure...

[*~Eleni~*]

Originally posted by mazznyc
In the case of governments and wars..The ends justifies the means.

and rightfully so

you have to break some eggs in order to make an omellette

just call me eleni 2 times :teeth

[blvd689]

Originally posted by PhuckU
Syria harbors them too...but we will just flick them.

Well I'm not sure who said this rumsfeld or cheney... but..this was said today

"Let this be a lesson to North Korea, Syria and Iran"